# 2012: Year of the Ban Hammer? **URL:** \ **Category:** Southeast\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 5:59am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811 "2012-05-29T05:59:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![bpontheair](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@bpontheair](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/bpontheair)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/21 "2012-05-30T02:10:08Z")
> [@Chace](#): > > Therefore I’m letting you know that you and “The Atlanta pro tech movie lovers guild” are not, and will not be welcomed at any of the P.K.E. Surge events to include the parade. > > We are the ones that have registered the Ghostbusters group there, therefore we can elect not to allow you to march with us. You CAN of course register the APTMLG on your own and march in a seperate area, you just won’t be allowed with us and the Ectomobiles. I went ahead and registered us for 60 members and eight Ectos. I know we put a deadline in the other thread for D_C, but if we get more folks/cars, I can add them via the D_C people. There was someone by the name of Krissi who already registered two people as GBs. I’m going to assume that could be her in that photo you shared. ---
**Author:** ![Chace](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/chace/32/156_2.png) [@Chace](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/Chace)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/22 "2012-05-30T02:21:32Z")
> [@bpontheair](#): > > There was someone by the name of Krissi who already registered two people as GBs. I’m going to assume that could be her in that photo you shared. Probably, her name on FB is listed as Kristian… Also she has responded > [@](#): > > “You realize that the bottom line is that my kickstarter is ALREADY funded! its been funded for a WEEK! No one bothered to tell me anything a week ago so how in ■■■■■■ hell do you expect me to do anything about it NOW?? You all are a very insensitive group. I hadnt even joined your group and i am STILL being judged! I guess no one in Atlanta is allowed to do anything ghostbusters related without going through you guys! Its like the Mob! You really think its fair to pas judgement a week later than when it would have made a difference? you all are ridiculous. And i pretty sure your thread did NOT bother to mention that fact at all. And for the record, if you HAD in fact come to me a week ago, and talked to me in a polite way about my project instead of having 2 separate people curse at me i would not be sitting here considering getting my lawyer involved for harassment.” So did someone else message her? Anyway here’s what I wrote back, "I have not “had” anyone curse at you, and I don’t condone that sort of behavior. I appreciate the timing was unfortunate but none of us were aware of the kickstarter untill yesterday. Again, you are not welcome at P.K.E. Surge or GaGB events" ---
**Author:** ![Chace](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/chace/32/156_2.png) [@Chace](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/Chace)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/23 "2012-05-30T02:27:31Z")
She’s posted again, and per her request can one of the mods take that pic off my first post? > [@](#): > > Also the following info to share with your group if you feel like it: I have been registered for the parade in my own group for a week now, i was never interested in joining your group. I had not asked and i wasn’t trying to. My packs are my own, it is not my intention to sell them after this year, just like the rest of my cosplays, they are in my closet so i can use them again for the next year or the next. Because they are MINE i can do that. My dragon ballz costumes I made by hand, stitching, helmets and all and you can suck it for insulting them. > > I have had 2 people massage me personally cursing and insulting me, I took screenshots and reported them to kickstarter. I can show them to you as well, but if i continue to be harassed i will do something about it. That happened yesterday and today. Remove my picture from your website. You do not have permission to post it. > > FYI i NEVER asked to be a part of your group so i don’t understand why y’all are going out of your way to attack me! I don’t plan on writing her again, I’m not attempting to start a debate, just to let her know they aren’t welcome at our events and that’s been done. Wow I wasnt even done typing that and she message me again. > [@](#): > > and i believe my husband mentioned that most of the people that helped fund my project where family and friends who actually thought it was cool to help us out. As i told they other guy who cursed at me, how is me using kickstarter any different than using a lemonade stand to get funding for anything. Im not making money for my project like other people out there, im doing it for myself and i seriously do see why you think its right to judge me and my group for that. There are plenty of people who use kickstarter for cosplay! Im no the first and i wont be the last! .. ---
**Author:** ![cowbybill](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@cowbybill](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/cowbybill)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/24 "2012-05-30T02:28:59Z")
Funny she can’t afford to build a pack but she can afford lawyers. ---
**Author:** ![kevinj319](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/kevinj319/32/187120_2.png) [@kevinj319](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/kevinj319)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/25 "2012-05-30T02:35:43Z")
I don’t agree with their kickstarter campaign, but this is all kind of dickish. It’s really not any of our business what they do, however dumb it may be. ---
**Author:** ![ProtonCharger](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@ProtonCharger](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/ProtonCharger)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 2:52am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/26 "2012-05-30T02:52:20Z")
you know, instead of a lemonade stand, i have a job and save money. if i cant buy it, i put it off until i can just like everyone else. i dont care about these two people; im all about ruining their good time because what they did is ethically wrong. wearing those costumes after all this wont be any fun for them, and they deserve that. for the record, it certainly wasnt me who sent them an email. i was looking the other night to see this super microcontroller and i stumbled on to that. i wish i was 6 days sooner( not that i believe it really would have made a difference). now, how do we campaign kickstarter so the people behind that service or whatever it is put an end to cosplayers funding their costumes? ---
**Author:** ![Some\_Guy](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Guy](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/27 "2012-05-30T02:57:23Z")
At this point yeah, I agree with kevinj319. If she’s threatening lawyers (for some…reason) it’s pointless to keep going now. Only thing to do is to keep ourselves out of their business. If they get in trouble one way or another we’ll just sit back and go “I told you so.” Now if the plans she’s giving out is like, Stefan’s plans or something? Then I can see a bigger issue there. The worst part is, she’s right. This isn’t going to be the last time we see a OMFG GUYS GIVE ME MONEY TO BUILD SOMETHING FOR MYSELF; AND ONLY MYSELF Kickstarter. KS needs to buckle down on some of this ■■■■. ---
**Author:** ![Chace](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/chace/32/156_2.png) [@Chace](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/Chace)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/28 "2012-05-30T03:02:15Z")
> [@Some\_Guy](#): > > At this point yeah, I agree with kevinj319. If she’s threatening lawyers (for some…reason) it’s pointless to keep going now. Only thing to do is to keep ourselves out of their business. If they get in trouble one way or another we’ll just sit back and go “I told you so.” Now if the plans she’s giving out is like, Stefan’s plans or something? Then I can see a bigger issue there.. I agree, like I said, I just wanted to let her know they aren’t welcome at our events and that’s been done so I’m not writing back. Also since she refrenced gbfans in the kickstarter post I’d be willing to bet she pulled the plans from here. But again, my point has been made so I’m good. ---
**Author:** ![aj-quick](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/aj-quick/32/188008_2.png) [@aj-quick](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/aj-quick)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 5:41am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/29 "2012-05-30T05:41:24Z")
I don’t really agree with what is going on here… but that being said… this made me laugh: > [@](#): > > Remove my picture from your website. You do not have permission to post it. I don’t recall ever giving permission to her to copy a bunch of information (quotes, pictures.. plans.. etc) from GBFans and using them directly on her Kickstarter page to make money from work that GBFans and others have done. If she is looking for my sympathy she will not find it after a comment like that. ---
**Author:** ![Bambamkid](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/bambamkid/32/5853_2.png) [@Bambamkid](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/Bambamkid)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 5:59am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/30 "2012-05-30T05:59:39Z")
how about you just do what she ask she not a part of the group and you guy did start this in the first place. all she has to do is show this page to DC and your group Chace no matter how bigger wont be allowed ,unless you created the [ghostbusters movie](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/movies) it self (quotes, pictures.) the you should then you should of left it alone ---
**Author:** ![noslliT](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/nosllit/32/5954_2.png) [@noslliT](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/noslliT)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 6:29am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/31 "2012-05-30T06:29:13Z")
I pledged. It’s been a long time since I’ve gotten a hand written thank you note. ---
**Author:** ![Chace](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/chace/32/156_2.png) [@Chace](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/Chace)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 7:16am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/32 "2012-05-30T07:16:34Z")
> [@noslliT](#): > > I pledged. It’s been a long time since I’ve gotten a hand written thank you note. :nicejobyoudid: ---
**Author:** ![noslliT](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/nosllit/32/5954_2.png) [@noslliT](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/noslliT)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 7:22am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/33 "2012-05-30T07:22:41Z")
If you give me $25 I too will post progress pictures of my build and send you a link to the reference section. Please! I really like Ghostbusters ---
**Author:** ![Crazeyal\_Dah\_Debil](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/crazeyal_dah_debil/32/5853_2.png) [@Crazeyal\_Dah\_Debil](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/Crazeyal_Dah_Debil)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 1:00pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/34 "2012-05-30T13:00:44Z")
> [@jackdoud](#): > > The only way they’ll ever “get it” is if people bitchslap them around. Not sure how we’d keep them away from the main group as the parade organizers will shove them in with us anyway but we should distance ourselves as much as possible. THIS.. from a MODERATOR?? I’d report it, but that seems kinda redundant.. ---
**Author:** ![jackdoud](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@jackdoud](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/jackdoud)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 1:08pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/35 "2012-05-30T13:08:47Z")
> [@Crazeyal Dah Debil](#): > > THIS.. from a MODERATOR?? > > I’d report it, but that seems kinda redundant.. Yes, though since you’re new here (i just approved your post) you don’t know me, the audience or the inflection I typically put into my speech. For the record, I was not saying that the people need to be literally hit physically. I was pointing out that typically people who do things like use kickstarter to fund personal projects don’t and won’t understand why what they did is wrong in the opinion of the group here unless pointed and unambiguous action is taken against them. Chase has done this, the fact that these people are obviously geting worked up and haveing people sign up for the boards just to bitch at us about it proves that. We’ve done what we felt was necessary, it’s over, we’re moving on. ---
**Author:** ![ProtonCharger](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@ProtonCharger](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/ProtonCharger)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 1:09pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/36 "2012-05-30T13:09:35Z")
> [@Crazeyal Dah Debil](#): > > THIS.. from a MODERATOR?? > > I’d report it, but that seems kinda redundant.. THIS…from SOMEONE NEW?? What jack said wasn’t wrong at all. Welcome to the internet. ---
**Author:** ![drjameshouse](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/6a8cbe/32.png) [@drjameshouse](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/drjameshouse)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 1:30pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/37 "2012-05-30T13:30:23Z")
> [@Chace](#): > > She’s posted again, and per her request can one of the mods take that pic off my first post? > > > [@](#): > > > > Also the following info to share with your group if you feel like it: I have been registered for the parade in my own group for a week now, i was never interested in joining your group. I had not asked and i wasn’t trying to. My packs are my own, it is not my intention to sell them after this year, just like the rest of my cosplays, they are in my closet so i can use them again for the next year or the next. Because they are MINE i can do that. My dragon ballz costumes I made by hand, stitching, helmets and all and you can suck it for insulting them. > > > > I have had 2 people massage me personally cursing and insulting me, I took screenshots and reported them to kickstarter. I can show them to you as well, but if i continue to be harassed i will do something about it. That happened yesterday and today. Remove my picture from your website. You do not have permission to post it. > > > > FYI i NEVER asked to be a part of your group so i don’t understand why y’all are going out of your way to attack me! > > I don’t plan on writing her again, I’m not attempting to start a debate, just to let her know they aren’t welcome at our events and that’s been done. > > Wow I wasnt even done typing that and she message me again. > > > [@](#): > > > > and i believe my husband mentioned that most of the people that helped fund my project where family and friends who actually thought it was cool to help us out. As i told they other guy who cursed at me, how is me using kickstarter any different than using a lemonade stand to get funding for anything. Im not making money for my project like other people out there, im doing it for myself and i seriously do see why you think its right to judge me and my group for that. There are plenty of people who use kickstarter for cosplay! Im no the first and i wont be the last! > > .. Wait…she had 2 people massage her for free and she is complaining? I can’t even get the g/f to give me a massage. ---
**Author:** ![Crazeyal\_Dah\_Debil](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/crazeyal_dah_debil/32/5853_2.png) [@Crazeyal\_Dah\_Debil](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/Crazeyal_Dah_Debil)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/38 "2012-05-30T13:52:35Z")
> [@Crazeyal Dah Debil](#): > > THIS.. from a MODERATOR?? > > I’d report it, but that seems kinda redundant.. > [@jackdoud](#): > > Yes, though since you’re new here (i just approved your post) you don’t know me, the audience or the inflection I typically put into my speech. For the record, I was not saying that the people need to be literally hit physically. I was pointing out that typically people who do things like use kickstarter to fund personal projects don’t and won’t understand why what they did is wrong in the opinion of the group here unless pointed and unambiguous action is taken against them. Chase has done this, the fact that these people are obviously geting worked up and haveing people sign up for the boards just to bitch at us about it proves that. We’ve done what we felt was necessary, it’s over, we’re moving on. > [@ProtonCharger](#): > > THIS…from SOMEONE NEW?? > > What jack said wasn’t wrong at all. Welcome to the internet. A moderator is supposed to do just that. In most of the boards I’ve been on, that are civil places, that sort of statement would be adjusted, edited, or outright deleted. Now.. my being new has nothing to do with having an opinion. So, your statement is implying I should never question moderators? It’s okay to object, but don’t type it out? If I’m not with you, I’m against you? I was given a link. The board is open to the public. I joined and commented. My first post was rejected. I did not find it wrong or offensive, but I did not fight the moderation and repost the comments. This was let through and responded to. The conversation is starting to become an internet flamewar. I will not push it further by feeding trollish responses with similar replies. I object to what was said and why. I object to the tone and attitude in this thread. I am communicating this calmly. I am not “Bitching” anyone out. I am a Dragoncon attendee and have marched in the parade for almost ten years. I have never seen this level of exclusionary tactics and infighting and I think it should stop. Getting the clarification that physical violence was not intentionally advocated is wonderful. Why would you think online bullying is any better? There are no threats, name calling or demands in this reply. That is on purpose. Dragoncon is a special place. It exists because the community stands together in fandom and just enjoys itself. Please reconsider your actions. ---
**Author:** ![noslliT](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/nosllit/32/5954_2.png) [@noslliT](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/noslliT)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 2:14pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/39 "2012-05-30T14:14:23Z")
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**Author:** ![jackdoud](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@jackdoud](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/jackdoud)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811/40 "2012-05-30T14:19:30Z")
> [@Crazeyal Dah Debil](#): > > I object to the tone and attitude in this thread. I am communicating this calmly. I am not “Bitching” anyone out. As I pointed out, being new to THIS forum, you don’t know the regulars who post here, how they typically interact and how their words are typically inflected or ment. As you point out this goes both ways though personally I feel the ritcheous incredulity you expressed with how you responded to my post would qualify as bitching without knowing anything about you, your motives or intentions in signing up to post in this discussion. > [@Crazeyal Dah Debil](#): > > I have never seen this level of exclusionary tactics and infighting and I think it should stop… > > …Dragoncon is a special place. It exists because the community stands together in fandom and just enjoys itself. Please reconsider your actions. I’ve been to Dragoncon for the last 3 years and various other cons and costuming fandoms for over 12. I can’t speak for your experiences but this thread is not only typical of every “community” I’ve ever been in no matter how peripherally it’s so far been fairly benign compaired to the vitreolic slug-fests that have been the major shaper of the internet and fandoms since the concepts of such began. In response to your point about moderators I will simply say that every community is different and everyone’s idea of moderation, what it entails and requires and what it SHOULD do is different. Of the half dozen forums I frequent every one has different standards of interaction. Forcing your social standards though incredulity on a forum you know nothing about isn’t an argument in favor of your position. [Previous page](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/2012-year-of-the-ban-hammer/23811.md?page=3)