# Alice frame sourcing question **URL:** \ **Category:** Proton Packs\ **Created:** [September 11, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/alice-frame-sourcing-question/31711 "2017-09-11T16:50:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JFrench](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/c77e96/32.png) [@JFrench](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/JFrench)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/alice-frame-sourcing-question/31711/1 "2017-09-11T16:50:44Z")
Hey all, I’ve scoured the boards for an answer, but came up short, so please forgive the new post. Feel free to direct me to the thread I likely missed. My 5/yo son chose GB for our annual family group Halloween costumes. He’s going to use the new Spirit [proton pack](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/equipment/proton-pack), but I’m building packs for the wife and I. I’m having a bit of analysis paralysis on the Alice frames. Seems there are alot of “Chinese knock-offs” floating around that don’t hold up (at least in hiking conditions). However, I can’t seem to source any US-made milspec frames, even used. I guess my question is, should I simply purchase two frames from the GBFans store for peace of mind? I was only avoiding it because of the possible wait in delivery due to the Halloween season. Amazon has $39.99 Rothco frames that can arrive in two days with Prime, but they have some fairly negative reviews. Any pro-tips are appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Terrace](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@Terrace](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/Terrace)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/alice-frame-sourcing-question/31711/2 "2017-09-11T19:23:36Z")
Honestly, I’d go with the ones from the GBFans Shop. Since you’re worried about arrival times, you should know the Shop usually posts an Order-By date as Halloween draws near. Since it hasn’t yet, you should be able to get your frames from them with plenty of time to spare. ---
**Author:** ![JFrench](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/c77e96/32.png) [@JFrench](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/JFrench)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 1:02am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/alice-frame-sourcing-question/31711/3 "2017-09-12T01:02:42Z")
Good to know. Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![Lowberg](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/46a35a/32.png) [@Lowberg](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/Lowberg)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/alice-frame-sourcing-question/31711/4 "2017-09-12T19:15:10Z")
If you have any local military surplus stores I would give them a call. They more than likely would have them. My local place had tons, all USA made / Mil Spec and they are structurally much better especially the quality of the straps and padding. ---
**Author:** ![JFrench](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/c77e96/32.png) [@JFrench](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/JFrench)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/alice-frame-sourcing-question/31711/5 "2017-09-13T17:48:28Z")
That’s my current focus. I live in Atlanta, so I’ve already been to Tru-Spec’s retail outlet. Great for flightsuits, but they were out of Alice frames. Searching the other area surplus stores tomorrow. Fingers-crossed. ---
**Author:** ![B-Rad](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@B-Rad](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/B-Rad)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 2:30pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/alice-frame-sourcing-question/31711/6 "2017-09-14T14:30:59Z")
I bought a rothco Alice from my local surplus store as thats all they had. After getting it home and looking it over more thoroughly it just felt off. I asked AJ to see if the ones sold in the shop were the same and this is what he told me: _\*"Ours are not Rothco. The ones we sell are made by Atlanco / Tru-Spec._ Most all ALICE Frames are the same. Though the ones that Rothco sells are made from a thinner metal than the ones we sell. _Many users of the Rothco brand find their frames breaking around the top rivets. However, if you are only using it for a Spirit Halloween pack, you should be okay."\*_ I ended up returning what I got to the surplus store and will be picking up a frame from the shop when I’m ready to starting modding. ---
**Author:** ![JFrench](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/c77e96/32.png) [@JFrench](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/JFrench)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/alice-frame-sourcing-question/31711/7 "2017-09-15T20:00:14Z")
That’s great info! I ended up finding a used milspec one at a local surplus store. It was $50, but I picked it up. ---
**Author:** ![WindDrake](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/f05b48/32.png) [@WindDrake](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/WindDrake)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/alice-frame-sourcing-question/31711/8 "2017-09-15T21:10:23Z")
I got my last ALICE frame on eBay for $25 shipped, used USGI issue. There is a ton of them out there. ---
**Author:** ![necrosapien87](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@necrosapien87](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/necrosapien87)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/alice-frame-sourcing-question/31711/9 "2017-09-15T22:49:08Z")
Accidental Duplicate post ---
**Author:** ![necrosapien87](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@necrosapien87](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/necrosapien87)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/alice-frame-sourcing-question/31711/10 "2017-09-15T22:49:30Z")
You can also find them at Military Surplus stores. I’m gonna try my hand at making one from PVC Pipe for my Spirit Pack ---
**Author:** ![khazara](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@khazara](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/khazara)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 6:05am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/alice-frame-sourcing-question/31711/11 "2017-10-13T06:05:17Z")
I bought my Alice frame last month from eBay user armed\_forces\_supply for $45 shipped, including shoulder straps and kidney pad. I specified Olive Drab and received a set of both olive drab & camo shoulder straps. ---
**Author:** ![hutto](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/f9ae1b/32.png) [@hutto](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/hutto)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 1:02pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/alice-frame-sourcing-question/31711/12 "2017-10-13T13:02:37Z")
I bought mine from a surplus store. Doesn’t have mounting holes in the bottom. I drilled holes in it last night and it’s a massive pain to figure out how to get carriage bolts in there. I might mount them backwards and use wingnuts, or a locking nut. ---
**Author:** ![DeLoreanDMC81](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DeLoreanDMC81](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/DeLoreanDMC81)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/alice-frame-sourcing-question/31711/13 "2017-10-22T22:52:10Z")
I agree with what has been said here, just check out your local surplus store or check on eBay. I was lucky enough to find an original LC-1 frame, strap, bag at Smith & Edwards here in Brigham City, Utah. Then a few days after that I bought an original LC-1 set up on ebay. So they are out there, just gotta have the patience to find them. The crumby thing is that 99.8% of the time you’re going to find an LC-2. Good luck with your search. James