# Bob's Prop Shop - Videobob - Robert (Bob) Moseley **URL:** \ **Category:** Feedback\ **Created:** [September 19, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917 "2011-09-19T17:47:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![aj-quick](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/aj-quick/32/188008_2.png) [@aj-quick](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/aj-quick)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/81 "2012-05-18T18:48:11Z")
I would NEVER tell people to buy from him, and never have. ---
**Author:** ![Ecto\_1](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/b5e925/32.png) [@Ecto\_1](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/Ecto_1)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/82 "2012-05-20T21:06:35Z")
Ok, so as this thread gave me great joy to follow and I absolutely hated the fact that Bob locked his forums, I decided to do some “espionage” because really, someone needs to be keeping an eye on this ■■■■■■■. So anyways, in the theme around here lately with many scratch building their own ladder assemblies, including myself, I present to you, the Video Bob Booster Frame Turd 2.0 “mine’s better than what 20 others already do” edition ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/6/7/672bb2100f526f5cca2975a60735b909fde4f39e.jpeg) As you can see, he is getting grilled about the inaccuracies still, and I laugh that the guy “scoured” reference pictures and still can’t get the ■■■■■■■ angles on the pencils right. Maybe instead of props, he should go into Gb themed comedy, cause this shit is just funny! ---
**Author:** ![RedDeath](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@RedDeath](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/RedDeath)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 3:30am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/83 "2012-05-25T03:30:53Z")
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN8pPbE0vbs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN8pPbE0vbs) ---
**Author:** ![techdisaster](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@techdisaster](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/techdisaster)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/84 "2012-05-25T16:13:10Z")
> [@noslliT](#): > > First off there is no way he made that bumper from scratch. > > I love how he says people are selling recasts of his recast. Someone (who wants to remain anonymous) sent me these screen captures from Bob’s site concerning his bumper. It’s very strange that he typically uses all black resin, except for his first bumper pull. Can anyone claim this bumper? ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/b/1/b1df217283853bfacfe9ab8b31aa320aa2cdcb15.png) ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/3/5/35d2d67a2e8fd4dff10f7bc2cf38f8ae70a07efe.png) ---
**Author:** ![ghostfan003](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/898d66/32.png) [@ghostfan003](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/ghostfan003)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 7:12pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/85 "2012-05-25T19:12:01Z")
Wasn’t VD Slob complaining about not knowing the proper measurement for the booster tube … but he somehow whips this out? I also chuckle at how he documents his inaccurate booster frame to show he’s not recasting, but refuses to show his scratch-built bumper. ---
**Author:** ![noslliT](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/nosllit/32/5954_2.png) [@noslliT](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/noslliT)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/86 "2012-05-25T19:41:25Z")
It’s fairly easy to deduce that all he’s doing is purchasing parts off eBay and just recasting whatever he gets his hands on. He’s only forced to tap dance a little and make it look like he’s actually doing some of his own work just to appease people for whatever motives. I see a few parts I recognize already. It’s just incredible that he’ll recast just about anything. This is a hobby which is a distraction from normal life. Whether it be parts or knowledge or just to screw around we’re here to help each other and respect one another’s work which is not limited to recasting our creations and turning a buck on it. Replication is the biggest form of flattery not duplication. ---
**Author:** ![aj-quick](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/aj-quick/32/188008_2.png) [@aj-quick](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/aj-quick)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/87 "2012-05-25T20:04:59Z")
I’m gonna go out on a very short limb here and say that its KC Ghostbuster’s part: Sure Videobob filled in a few of the sharp edges, but what he didn’t change was the overall shape of the roundness in the corners… KC Ghostbusters front part is very distinct. That and the sidewall thickness on the right hand side is thick and squared off. Most everyone else that sells a bumper has highly rounded edges there to match the real bumper more closely. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Weaver\_II](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/e95f7d/32.png) [@Gary\_Weaver\_II](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/Gary_Weaver_II)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/88 "2012-05-25T20:33:57Z")
Aj, you are 100% right. Checking the previous sales on the part show a buyer from Feb 15, 2012 with the same feedback score as Bob’s old Ebay account - RCMSales (Feedback score of 5974). You can verify the buyer here: [http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&\_trksid=p4340.l2564&rt=nc&item=130628140000](http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&_trksid=p4340.l2564&rt=nc&item=130628140000) I’d love to go into more detail of my experiences with Videoboob, but I’d hate to get more e-mail videos 🙂 -Gary ---
**Author:** ![aj-quick](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/aj-quick/32/188008_2.png) [@aj-quick](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/aj-quick)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/89 "2012-05-25T20:45:01Z")
Thanks for posting that Gary. Now we have another eBay name to put to him. We’ll have to talk to Eric Hunter (KCGhostbuster) if he sold one to Videobob around that time. I guess we’ve been ruffling some feathers. Videobob just sent me this email. ---
**Author:** ![aj-quick](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/aj-quick/32/188008_2.png) [@aj-quick](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/aj-quick)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/90 "2012-05-25T20:50:46Z")
Note. As an update to what Gary Weaver said. All you have to do is check “RCMSales” feedback on eBay. There you will find feedback from erichunter. The auction numbers indicate that Videobob purchased: - A Bumper. - Booster - PPD - Resin Booster Plug. He also purchased a Proton Gun from propcrazed… which we all know was selling recast parts from Eric Hunter (KCGhostbuster) and MMM (irricanian). I’m sure that’s not all, but its what I’ve found just at first glance. ---
**Author:** ![KCGhostbuster](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/a9a28c/32.png) [@KCGhostbuster](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/KCGhostbuster)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/91 "2012-05-26T00:53:48Z")
AJ Thanks for spotting the recast. Looks like Bob did buy from me under a previous name (wish I’d caught that). Not quite sure how I can stop him from recasting my part but I’m open to suggestions. I’m wondering about the source of his other Bob-made parts… ---
**Author:** ![irricanian](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/irricanian/32/5887_2.png) [@irricanian](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/irricanian)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 1:58am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/92 "2012-05-26T01:58:20Z")
Unfortunately I don’t think there is any way to stop the Videobob’s of the world, they are going to do it regardless of whatever steps you take to prevent them. Someone who recasts has no regard for rules and no scruples… Block them from purchasing they will just get some other user to buy it and then pass it over. Doesn’t matter if it’s Ebay, website or wherever. I have been recast 4 times now and have caught them each time (with the help of others in the community), fact of the matter is recasters are lazy and make mistakes and it’s those mistakes that ultimately lead to their downfall. Each time I have confronted them they have denied it despite overwhelming evidence to support the claims, then basically disappear once they know they’ve been caught red handed. Everyone’s been doing a good job so far keeping on top of these people, I think the best thing we can do is continue to make everyone in the community fully aware of their actions, boldly expose who the guilty ones are and just let them hang themselves. Eventually they will damage their reputations so badly no one will touch them. Just my opinion ---
**Author:** ![techdisaster](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@techdisaster](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/techdisaster)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 12:30am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/93 "2012-05-27T00:30:22Z")
> [@IPv6Freely](#): > > “I will eventually redo it” seems to be a common theme for him. Why doesn’t he just do some research and do it right the first time? He even has a motto now about it not being important to be done right?? > > That email cracked me up. I got something similar once when I posted on another forum about a bad experience with a companies customer service (they said they were going to come kick my ass…). I’d love to see VB actually try to fight it in court!.. lol. I got sent another anonymous screen cap. I love the last line of the first paragraph and the first two bullets. "Why would anyone want to buy one of these…over my production mold version? “\*I need to make it well built.” “\* It need to be made with high quality materials.” Pretty much admits his recast shell is a low quality POS. ![image](http://i.imgur.com/DnfdR.png) ---
**Author:** ![techdisaster](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@techdisaster](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/techdisaster)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 1:45am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/94 "2012-06-02T01:45:50Z")
More from anon: Bob posted some replies to the criticism over his work and whether or not it was recast. ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/f/3/f34f1f8ade8d8bda98fefb21bbd19793e1080073.jpeg) PropXpert reposted AJ’s comparison of KCGhostbusters Bumper to Bobs recast, and this is the aftermath: ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/3/f/3f11a9e0504780e68bc7f5ad765a8b275aa07a56.png) Next, Bob got his hands on a resin thrower, it looks like it may be one of Irricanian’s (MMM) but worst is that he plans on going into production of metal ones. ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/a/9/a9bb2da178b61b7f8ef00fb7719678d6016c2e2e.png) ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/4/2/42ba8a88783cc207e09288917039d9de79e57f48.png) Lastly, hes name dropping Sean Bishop (Venkman 71) again, who hates his guts and most of the crew here loves. And renounces any recasting again other than the original shell. ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/c/5/c5c2b5034e0913f6bbf5bcad1d345394c47fc906.png) ---
**Author:** ![aj-quick](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/aj-quick/32/188008_2.png) [@aj-quick](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/aj-quick)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/95 "2012-06-02T04:41:35Z")
> [@Videobob](#): > > Just because some bonehead put together a bullshit photoshop pic doesnt make it true. The evidence is really stacked up against him, and well.. I guess its obvious he is trying to just dodge the question completely. All you have to do is take this high res photo Videobob provided and compare it directly to KCGhostbusters’ bumper. Videobob: [http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/414533\_225960414174418\_108113268\_o.jpg](http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/414533_225960414174418_108113268_o.jpg) KCGhostbuster: [http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ghostbusters-Proton-Pack-Bumper-/140751222876](http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ghostbusters-Proton-Pack-Bumper-/140751222876) Oh… that and the fact that Videobob used his RCMSales eBay account to buy the exact same bumper from KCGhostbuster months prior. > [@KCGhostbuster](#): > > Thanks for spotting the recast. Looks like Bob did buy from me under a previous name (wish I’d caught that). > > Not quite sure how I can stop him from recasting my part but I’m open to suggestions. Yeah. Its all “bullshit”. ---
**Author:** ![goldenhawk](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@goldenhawk](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/goldenhawk)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/96 "2012-06-02T16:12:24Z")
VB’s thrower is a recast of a recasting of the MMM gun kit. Colin has proof on another thread here. So, from VB you can get a recast of a recast pack shell and thrower. He now has the whole thing listed on eBay assembled with the motherboard with the gaps. ---
**Author:** ![techdisaster](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@techdisaster](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/techdisaster)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 2:35pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/97 "2012-06-03T14:35:54Z")
Bob admits he purchased KC’s bumper ebay and copied portions of it. ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/b/c/bcd3245f01fd63f09230af7926f28e3d30e9ca84.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![kingpin](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/kingpin/32/188026_2.png) [@kingpin](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/kingpin)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/98 "2012-06-05T15:54:07Z")
KCGhostbuster has directly addressed Bob’s rebuttle that Bob’s bumper isn’t a recast of KC’s. If AJ’s photo comparison weren’t proof enough, KC’s are the final nail in the coffin: > [@KCGhostbuster](#): > > Mods, I suspect that this thread can be merged with others -however, I wanted it to stand alone for a little while. > > This is a direct message to Video Bob. First, let’s review (quoting from your prop forum post): > > _\*"As for the bumper, I am going to go to the shop and either just sand down a section of it or maybe cut it in half to show the wood inside. That’s the best I can do._ > > > > I will admit this, I did buy the other bumper on eBay, I ended up just giving it away with one of my shells but before I sent it out I traced the top section out on a piece of paper to use to guide me in building mine. > > _So that’s why they are similar, but I had to build mine much smaller to make it fit."\*_ > > Bob, I’m flattered that you liked my bumper enough to buy it and ultimately trace the top section for use on your own bumper. It’s good that you were able to craft a smaller version of the bumper that’s a better fit for your shell. > > I can only image that the constant, swirling discussion around your parts has to be extremely frustrating. Worse, with a potential television show in the works these accusations have to be unnerving. Obviously you need to protect your reputation to make sure that the production company you’re working with feels comfortable and secure working with you. > > Please don’t sand down or otherwise deface your bumper. A lot of work goes into making bucks and, as you know, molds ultimately fail and need to be replaced -so you’ll need your master again eventually. > > To help resolve accusations against you of recasting my bumper, I’m posting pics of my original buck against the pictures you’ve posted yours. Hopefully this will clear up the issue permanently. > > My bumper: > > ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/d/8/d8bbf19c3efc10ee597a77b37678e96aea15004b.jpeg) > > Your bumper: > > ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/1/2/127aee06f6363171fc64fd53bef85209ba6f9c9d.jpeg) > > My bumper: > > ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/c/a/cadce337d7fcd62bc49bfa9846ab085daac4c60f.jpeg) > > Your bumper: > > ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/a/3/a38c8837b0a181c060914b286e78bed2f142f55a.jpeg) > > My bumper: > > ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/4/5/459c59e4911a72f4c2d6038a06fa7984a65779c3.jpeg) > > Your bumper: > > ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/5/3/53fb1606d46c89967e350616dca459e006969235.jpeg) > > Obviously, with the exception of a complete copy of the bumpers’ general shape, contour and measurements in all dimensions, our bumpers are completely different. [/sarcasm] > > Just to verify, a few more pictures: > > ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/d/6/d651553cacf32896bc81fc01e8ed32acc4c38701.jpeg) > > ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/f/0/f0f49be76a819bb313da94cc03777e685a193b5e.jpeg) > > ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/d/2/d2a84f431b8737343fa8698c65d6e2a9853fc625.jpeg) > > ![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/1/7/1736e97bbe693062b37b47ce07b6aa7e95b135eb.jpeg) > > So, there you have it. All confusion about you recasting my work should be cleared up. **\*\*You have recast my bumper. \*\*** There is no difference in size or shape in any of the bumpers dimensions. > > I can imagine you’re much relieved to have this issue decisively settled. > > I understand, due to circumstances beyond your control, you are not able to post directly to the GBFans site. Please don’t let that be a barrier to responding to my direct message. If you post a response on your forum I’m sure some kindly individual will relay it to me. > > Thank you for your time. > > -KCG [link](http://www.gbfans.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30178) ---
**Author:** ![KCGhostbuster](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/a9a28c/32.png) [@KCGhostbuster](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/KCGhostbuster)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/99 "2012-06-05T18:34:16Z")
Kingpin- Thanks for copying my post over. I think my post may have been mis-intepreted as an endorsement of Bob. That is not the case. I’ve posted the following statement on my thread and am adding it to this one: _\*All-_ _I think my thread may have caused some confusion. My intent was to be as sarcastic as possible - my words and pictures are in direct contradiction to each other. Blame late-night writing and anger as the primary culprits for the ambiguity.\*_ To be crystal clear: _\ ***BOB HAS RECAST MY BUMPER. PERIOD.** _ Bob claims that his bumper is smaller than mine, but the comparison pictures clearly show that the bumpers are identical in all measurements except height (where he’s chopped off the taper of the legs). There is no way on the planet it is possible to reproduce a piece with such exactness without recasting it. I couldn’t scratch build another bumper and have be that close to my original. And neither can Bob. Thanks _-Eric\*_ ---
**Author:** ![goldenhawk](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@goldenhawk](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/goldenhawk)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:51am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917/100 "2012-06-26T02:51:48Z")
Well, now we know VB posted pics of the Sony pack stolen from Vince. [Previous page](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/bobs-prop-shop-videobob-robert-bob-moseley/9917.md?page=6)