They certainly screwed up in terms of publicity and advertising. A misleading trailer that seemed to imply the events of the first film happened and director and cast members responding to trolls and fueling their hate. All of this could’ve easily been avoided, the opening text didn’t have to be there in the first place and Feig & co should’ve just ignored and blocked the trolls.
We’re well past the stage when ignoring or blocking trolls works. That was Twitter’s responsibility, not Feig & Co.'s, and Twitter dropped the ball for far too long. The Internet is lost. Maybe not permanently, but something major has to change.
Twitter can’t babysit every user, you gotta use common sense when someone gives you childish insults or other kinds of provocative nonsense and realize these are not people you can have proper discussion with. Ignore and block.
Moderating isn’t babysitting. It’s called having respect for your business and not letting inhuman morons take it over and define your image. Twitter lost that battle a long time ago.
Ignore and block doesn’t make anything stop. Trolls use that against their victims, continuing to post about them, only this time you’re not able to see it and defend yourself at all. Or they start up a new account. Or they send their minions in to continue the trolling. There’s too many of them. It’s creepy, it’s insane, and ignoring it hasn’t made anything go away. Trolls rule every corner of the Web now, because all we did was ignore them. There are no consequences to trolling, no reason for them to stop. I have zero problem with Feig & co. humiliating them for all the world to see. Yes, trolls feed off attention, but that doesn’t mean they’ve “won” anything. Only in their sick, sad heads have they “won” anything. To the rest of us in the real world, trolls are losers, they are failures. And they deserve to have it rubbed in their stupidly smug little faces, lol. Or at the very least, they are disturbed people who need help, like, yesterday. And they won’t get it so long as their are no consequences to what they’re doing.
OK, rant over.
Nope, but it sure helps the situation more than responding. These lowlives didn’t even deserve attention, and even insulting them back is a form of acknowledgment that shows their words have been heard. If they had realized they were basically talking to a wall they would’ve given up faster and there would have been much less drama to deal with.
I wasn’t talking about stopping trolling itself, that is more or less impossible. But you can control it to some degree by not giving the lowlives any attention. Compare it to a fire, it will eventually die out by itself, but by feeding the trolls you are continuously pouring gasoline on it and making it go on for much longer.
I’m fine with how they handled the trolls. Just saying.
If you like ATC and think its the best Ghostbusters out of the three, awesome, but it didnt matter how good the movie. It financially was a failure and even worse probably halted production on more Ghostbusters movies. Sony casted Ghostbusters without considering the core fan bass or mass appeal or merchandise. ( you could have easily picked 4 other women that had mass appeal to women, men and kids) Again it has nothing to do with the quality of the movie, it just wasnt profitable or profitable with the budget they spent.
I havent seen suicide squad, but from my understanding ATC was a better movie. However Suicide squad nailed the trailer, apppeal and a merchandise. A worse movie grossed over $700 million.
I understand people not wanting to sexualize women, but everone is to blame. I predict this Halloween we will see a ton of Harley quinn s and that’s not because women are going to feel pressured to do so, willing participants
I don’t know why in this day and age we keep having to say this but here goes: Plenty of classic and fondly remembered films “fail” financially. A lot of crap movies get rich quick…and are just as quickly forgotten. I’d strongly advise detractors to find something other than numbers to hang their arguments on. This is a movie, not a sports game to be scored.
By the logic you guys are using, GB84 is only good because it happened to make money. But GB84 would be good regardless of profit. Do fans really not know this?
And btw, McKinnon just won an Emmy. And Jones was also a presenter. These women do very obviously have mass appeal. And you guys would be fine with them if they had literally spoon fed you “This is a sequel.”
I’m going to go play “Flip City” now. Nice talking!
Could you actually name four actresses who would appeal to the female members of the audience, the male, and also the children in it, and you could believe would making a convincing Ghostbuster?
It might not be as easy as you make it sound.
Emma stone? Im sure you could have picked a cast that was more appealing, not just more physically attractive. But whether ATC cast was appealing to the audience wasn’t a consideration. Paul feig picked the actresses he liked to work with. If you were going ro build a franchise of several new movies, wouldn’t have you done it with a younger cast? I know the origanl 84 Ghostbusters were older when it came out, but i dont think they attended on making sequels . plus they wrote and starred in their own movie
Id be interested to know what 4 women fans would have liked to seen in a Ghostbusters movie
With GB16, they ended up choosing four high profile comedians (many from SNL) who are valued for their humor and talent, not their body types. In other words, exactly the same as the GB84 cast. And that is what the fanbase rejected…I…I have no words… And that is why I don’t…I can’t…trust the fans regarding a GB3.
Emma Stone is not a comedian. And I doubt her talents are the only reason she’s popular. 
Christina Applegate would make a great Ghostbuster, she’s very funny.
Whoa Bundy!
Edit: I’m being serious you know. She’s got great comedic talents.
Emma stone was awrsome in zombieland and that is definitely the same feel as Ghostbusters. A horror comedy. Though she is attractive there are a ton of better looking actresses and i still prefer her. Being attractive isnt a sin. Man or women people want to go to the movies and see good-looking people
::sigh:: Except GB84 fans constantly praise the cast for looking like ordinary guys. But apparently that doesn’t apply to girls.
I’m done, lol.
It does apply. I’m talking purely comedic talents here, not looks at all. Think about it, Christina Applegate’s performance as Kelly Bundy can be equated to Bill Murray’s performance as Carl Spackler, they’re kind of similar characters. I hope I didn’t send the wrong message.
Anyways you said you were done. Catch ya on the flip side 
No, it’s OK. I mean, Applegate was on a long running sitcom, she does have some cred. And I don’t dislike Emma Stone, I just see her as more an occasional comedic actress than a comedian, if that makes sense.
Yeah, that makes perfect sense. She can be funny but her strength is in dramas (at least that’s what I would assume, I haven’t seen her in many films.) But you never sent the impression that you didn’t like her.
Off the top of my head, actresses who I think would have had more mainstream appeal and also would have suited the tone of the original films a lot better. Not counting Wiig, who I think would have been good but I wish she didnt do her “awkward neurotic” thing she does in every Feig movie:
Rose Byrne
Sandra Bullock
Ellie Kemper
Winona Ryder
Emma Stone
Mary Louise Parker
Elizabeth Banks
Rachel McAdams
Anna Kendrick
Amy Adams
Julie Bowen
Mila Kunis
Christina Applegate
Gwyneth Paltrow
Chelsea Peretti
Kristen Bell
Anna Faris
Rosario Dawson
Janeane Garofalo
Jenna Fischer
Also, five pages of suggestions from this very board:
http://www.gbfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=9911
Murray and Aykroyd have both done a lot of non-comedy stuff. I think the problem was that they did go with actresses who are basically just do comedy skits in all their films (with the exception of Wiig).
I get the frustration. If feels like a double standard and No one was attractive in gb84. But it was a unique idea mostly liked by boys. Even Sigourney Weaver isnt a knockout, but she is appealing as an actress. Aliens is an all time great movie. Again im not focused about making a better movie, more about a movie making more money or having a larger appeal. Even though they both used snl cast, snl is no where near as popular as it was.
Emma Stone read the script and said she liked it, but passed because she was unwilling to commit to another franchise right after the Spider-Man films.
Admittedly, before I saw the movie, I might’ve said, “I wish they’d cast X.” The only problem with that is that at the time, X would’ve been replacing one of the two unknowns for me, McKinnon and Jones, who I had no awareness of. They were both fantastic in the movie and I’m a big fan of both of them now.
It might’ve been interesting to see someone other than McCarthy as well, but I like Wiig, so I would’ve said yes to her no matter what.