so this game is pretty much going to make extreme gb obsolete because it has a different back story right?
I’ve always thought Extreme Ghostbusters to be on it’s own.. the same way Real Ghostbusters is.
EGB is the sequel of RGB and GB: the videogame is the sequel of GB1 and GB2
You can kinda mix the cartoons, comic, and movies but in general they are separate universes.
I think that the Ghostbusters timeline that is online is pretty comprehensive and it kind of keeps everything in line. EGB isn’t until even after when the video game is set so there shouldn’t really be any conflicts at all because didn’t EGB come out in 1997? The game is set in 1991. But in general I would tend to agree that the cartoons seem to be in a seperate timeline from the movies but if you try I think they can fit together without too much trouble.
Well in the RGB they go and watch the Ghostbusters movie with the names of the actors we know and reference a “possible third movie” in EGB. So in that continuity, the movies are based off of the Real Ghostbusters.
Whether you count either cartoon series as canon, it would still fit in the timeline if they were
1984: Ghostbusters
1984+: The Real Ghostbusters
1989: Ghostbusters II
1991: Ghostbusters TVG
1991+: More adventures of Ghostbusters, including the script for the third film, until they go out of business
1997: Extreme Ghostbusters
According to the GBOT, the guys shut down business in either late 1991 or early 1992. Here’s the entry Fritz has:
As great as the work Fritz has done on the time line Real Ghostbusters is NOT cannon with Ghostbusters I or II.
Items written by Dan Aykroyd and Harold Ramis are in this franchise’s case cannon. The video game included.
Let’s face it, the days when one could claim one “true” canon started to fall apart in 2004, when the first of the retcons and reboots started to come along. Before then, the saga was pretty linear, and happened more or less in “real time”.
Everything released with Columbia Pictures and/or Sony’s approval is canon. But there’s more than one canon–because not every product released with Columbia/Sony’s approval considers everything else released by Columbia/Sony canon.
GB1 doesn’t count anything else as canon–because there was nothing before it. It’s not accurate to call anything “in canon” with GB1: it’s more accurate to say “These sources consider GB1 canon”…and that, of course, means everything. RGB is just as valid a continuation of GB1 as GB2 or the first edition of the GBI RPG or the 88MPH mini-series; they just contradict each other, not GB1.
RGB considers GB1 canon–go back and watch “Citizen Ghost”. It’s relationship with GB2 is a little more troubled–there’s some elements from GB2 introduced in the 1989 season that clearly come from GB2 (Janine’s stupid hair cut, Louis Tully shoehorned into the show, mention of Vigo and mood slime) but on the other hand there’s no mention of ECTO-1A or any suggestion that the team went out of business.
EGB considers RGB canon, more or less, and thus includes by implication everything that RGB considered canon. Though there’s some suggestion that, like many fans, it downplayed some of the excesses of later RGB (ie Slimer’s “development” in later seasons is ignored to put him back much like he was early in RGB)
GB Legion only considered GB1 canon. It didn’t consider GB2 it’s “definite” future. It did borrow the ECU from RGB, but on the whole doesn’t consider RGB part of it’s canon.
GB2 of course only considers the first movie part of it’s canon. The new video game, the IDW comic, and The Return consider only the two movies part of their canon–but not necessarily each other. There has been some suggestion that the Tokyopop manga does consider the video game it’s “definite” future, which means it probably won’t contradict any of it–but I doubt GBVG truly considers the Tokyopop book canon from it’s own end.
But I guess the point is this: EGB is still valid canon, though only in it’s own continuity. It’s not “obsolete” It’s still the “latest” work in relation to the start of the franchise, being some fifteen years after GB1, and deserves some respect for that.
Negative, by your reasoning anything with a Columbia copywrite on it is canon, this includes the toys.
If you take into consideration how other movies operate the only thing that’s canon is the movie itself.
The new video game is new territory because rarely has a video game been considered canon, in this case it just happens to be canon.
Canon in its purest form for Ghostbusters is any writen by Dan Akroyd as it is his universe.
It’s the same reason how George Lucas was able to ignore so much material printed with his approval, but not created by him. Sorry Fritz, anything writen by Dan Aykroyd is canon, not anything with a Sony logo on it.
It might just be in certain video games, but if you’ve ever played any of the .hack games, they have a large conglomerate that is behind each project and it’s included at least four anime series, three series of games, and several mangas, each one with a linear timeline (the most recent being a reboot of the series, though, which makes the earlier timeline invalid at this point).
Anime and Japanese films have never been good at continuity. I point you at two great examples: Pokemon and Godzilla. And I love Godzilla.
One fo the things being ovrlooked is that just because it’s not canon dosn’t mean you have to hate it. I love Real Ghostbusters, and even like EGB. They’re just not canon with the films, and now, video game.
And yes, I know the RPG is not canon either. I just use it as a guidebook to understand the Ghostbusters world. It’s a lot better than the Cartoon, where the equipment always just happens to have the perfect setting or modification to deal with a situation.
Ghostbusters has always been a psuedo realistic world, Real Ghostbusters has not.
Been hearing that a lot lately…
I’ve always kinda wanted to set everyone who insists the movies and cartoons have to be two separate universes on fire.
Can I join you?
Absolutely. In fact, let’s just get a lynch mob going. That’ll shut 'em up.
Well, with something as all over as Ghostbusters is (movies/cartoons/comics/books/rpgs/video games) it’s impossible to narrow it down to one ideal canon that everyone will agree on.
Personally, i don’t believe everything has to be a separate universe. Fritz has done an incredible job of proving that connecting all the dots is possible. But there will be some people who don’t want to consider RGB or EGB or Legion or the RPG or Ghostbusters International or The Video Game or even GB2 as canon. It’s all really a matter of personal preference.
I’ve always been pro-personal choice … but who can resist a lynch mob?! I’m in. =P
Okay, so I have a bit of a fascist streak. The point remains that “it’s all canon” is a less obnoxious opinion than “screw your cartoons, I only want the stuff Dan wrote because I’m an elitist jerk.”