# My Aluminium Scratch build pack adventure (Pic Heavy)

**URL:** <https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701>\
**Category:** Proton Packs\
**Created:** [December 5, 2014, 1:33pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701 "2014-12-05T13:33:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![galeap](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/dbc845/32.png) [@galeap](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/galeap)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2015, 11:45am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/41 "2015-05-03T11:45:43Z")

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Hi everyone.

After a break for a few weeks to let the weather cool down to something reasonable to work in, I’m back into working on the pack. Well actually the first thing I decided to do was make a sheet metal roller to roll the body of the [cyclotron](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/equipment/proton-pack/cyclotron) and curved piece on the spacer. I had a go at bending the curved spacer piece by hand but wasn’t happy with the quality of the curve so I built this little roller out of scrap bits and pieces I had laying around.

[![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/d/c/dc726a307bce46741b1ec954418c4a1eb385ae47.jpeg)](http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/galeaorama/media/Proton%20Pack%20Build/2015-05-03%2019.12.28_zpspmqhedml.jpg.html)

It’s not the sexiest roller in town, but rolls aluminum fine.

Anyway, on to the build. I finished welding up the outer walks of the spacer and tidied up the facets. I then moved on to the cyclotron. After the problems I had with the curved corners on the gearbox I decided to try hammer forming the cyclotron lid. So I made a buck out of mdf and tapped out the cyclotron lid with a nice rolled corner.

[![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/a/a/aab1ad9f095c01ba31c0b4ac88ddd936350dbd6f.jpeg)](http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/galeaorama/media/Proton%20Pack%20Build/2015-05-03%2019.21.29_zps5igcuvnf.jpg.html)

[![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/7/7/77f322f30aa60e5f91cbe68aca65a6d4139ca5f1.jpeg)](http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/galeaorama/media/Proton%20Pack%20Build/2015-05-03%2019.22.08_zps175zn83b.jpg.html)

[![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/0/8/08718f25a599714a010d97ca90c7c056b34ab6fe.jpeg)](http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/galeaorama/media/Proton%20Pack%20Build/2015-05-03%2019.14.34_zpsz1jgqrdc.jpg.html)

[![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/8/e/8ec1587c119e17c30216a55a4b3539f91e6e36d7.jpeg)](http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/galeaorama/media/Proton%20Pack%20Build/2015-05-03%2019.15.31_zpswilqek0s.jpg.html)

Then I cut and rolled the cyclotron side.

[![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/c/a/ca496dd2bd05a176d7ccd10c34aba3ebdab638c4.jpeg)](http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/galeaorama/media/Proton%20Pack%20Build/2015-05-03%2019.16.45_zpsgpzuf7mf.jpg.html)

And this is what it looks like with a dry fit on the spacer. I’ll weld it up next weekend if all goes to plan.

[![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/1/a/1a72046897361fa11802ee29fd31daf17daeaef0.jpeg)](http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/galeaorama/media/Proton%20Pack%20Build/2015-05-03%2019.17.47_zpsqi3jc0uo.jpg.html)

[![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/5/2/52489c5ca5f5a5f59ad87387cb617d64c4237d6c.jpeg)](http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/galeaorama/media/Proton%20Pack%20Build/2015-05-03%2019.18.23_zpsn7miaqxi.jpg.html)

[![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/d/1/d1f29bd19eeda678670308c5c2ab33e138116fef.jpeg)](http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/galeaorama/media/Proton%20Pack%20Build/2015-05-03%2019.19.08_zps9kkdn4wx.jpg.html)

Well that’s all for tonight.

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**Author:** ![cpu64](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/cpu64/32/104792_2.png) [@cpu64](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/cpu64)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2015, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/42 "2015-05-03T14:13:43Z")

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Sooo pretty!!!

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**Author:** ![csullivan1980](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/csullivan1980/32/19486_2.png) [@csullivan1980](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/csullivan1980)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/43 "2015-05-03T14:33:59Z")

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I…I…no words.

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**Author:** ![kingpin](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/kingpin/32/188026_2.png) [@kingpin](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/kingpin)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/44 "2015-05-03T14:58:21Z")

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It’s beautiful.

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**Author:** ![pyhasanon](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/fbc32d/32.png) [@pyhasanon](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/pyhasanon)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/45 "2015-05-03T18:09:49Z")

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My… God… that is beautiful…

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**Author:** ![thelegendofvix](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/thelegendofvix/32/6565_2.png) [@thelegendofvix](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/thelegendofvix)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/46 "2015-05-04T15:40:28Z")

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Wow.

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**Author:** ![galeap](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/dbc845/32.png) [@galeap](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/galeap)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 9:34am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/47 "2015-05-05T09:34:31Z")

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Hi guys. Thanks for the kind words. It helps fuel my motivation on this project. Pete.

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**Author:** ![nick-a-tron](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/fbc32d/32.png) [@nick-a-tron](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/nick-a-tron)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/48 "2015-05-05T22:33:28Z")

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This is art!

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**Author:** ![cpu64](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/cpu64/32/104792_2.png) [@cpu64](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/cpu64)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 11:12pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/49 "2015-05-05T23:12:22Z")

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> [@galeap](#):
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> Hi guys. Thanks for the kind words. It helps fuel my motivation on this project. Pete.

So true. It’s what kept me going with my shell. Most people here are just awesome!

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**Author:** ![propcicle](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/dbc845/32.png) [@propcicle](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/propcicle)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 3:19am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/50 "2015-05-06T03:19:52Z")

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I would really think twice about painting this. Great craftsmanship on a beautiful pack.

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**Author:** ![thelegendofvix](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/thelegendofvix/32/6565_2.png) [@thelegendofvix](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/thelegendofvix)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 5:54pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/51 "2015-05-06T17:54:05Z")

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> [@propcicle](#):
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> I would really think twice about painting this. Great craftsmanship on a beautiful pack.

Agreed. I’d keep it in raw aluminum form. When people ask you could always say “it’s a prototype pack” or “this one is for a scientific research setting as opposed to a commercial setting” or some other nerdy excuse lol.

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**Author:** ![EctoPrimer](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/a87d85/32.png) [@EctoPrimer](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/EctoPrimer)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 6:32pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/52 "2015-05-06T18:32:58Z")

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Put it in a glass case, like a trophy. Perhaps even on an all aluminum maniquan

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**Author:** ![ocp\_model-001](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/ocp_model-001/32/187055_2.png) [@ocp\_model-001](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/ocp_model-001)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/53 "2015-05-06T20:36:44Z")

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Lovely work lad, I agree with some of the others, it’s a shame to paint it! Mines needs paint to hid all the grinder marks and dents :lol:

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**Author:** ![galeap](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/dbc845/32.png) [@galeap](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/galeap)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 12:10pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/54 "2015-05-08T12:10:50Z")

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Thanks again guys, but this one will be textured, painted and weathered.

Maybe I will make a second and leave naked except for the stickers/labels. I’ve learnt a heap in this build so far, so I should be able to do a better job on a second.

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**Author:** ![thelegendofvix](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/thelegendofvix/32/6565_2.png) [@thelegendofvix](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/thelegendofvix)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/55 "2015-05-08T13:49:56Z")

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> [@galeap](#):
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> Thanks again guys, but this one will be textured, painted and weathered.
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> Maybe I will make a second and leave naked except for the stickers/labels. I’ve learnt a heap in this build so far, so I should be able to do a better job on a second.

I’ll take your first pack off your hands for you. Or the 2nd one. I’m not really picky.

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**Author:** ![galeap](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/dbc845/32.png) [@galeap](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/galeap)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 11:53am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/56 "2015-05-21T11:53:03Z")

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Hi all,

Not much progress to show for last weekend. Basically I made the half inch wide ring to go around the [cyclotron](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/equipment/proton-pack/cyclotron) pan. I made this out of solid square bar that I bent around a wooden form that I made. I can add some photos of the form if anyone is interested.

I’ve welded the ring closed and this is a photo of the test fit. [![image](http://www.gbfans.com/images/pb/galeaorama/Proton Pack Build\_2015-05-21 21.17.57\_zpsv2rk1aym.jpg)](http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/galeaorama/media/Proton%20Pack%20Build/2015-05-21%2021.17.57_zpsv2rk1aym.jpg.html)

My next task is the washers for the cyclotron lights. I have been reading across heaps of posts about opinions on the inner and outer diameter of these. From what I have worked out there is reasonable opinion that the washers are sized at:

Top larger washers 2-3/8 inch OD and 1-3/8 inch ID.

Botton washers 2-1/4 inch OD and 1-3/8 inch ID.

Then I found the following reference photos showing measurements of the Sony Lobby pack:

[http://www.gbfans.com/equipment/reference/33/360/](http://www.gbfans.com/equipment/reference/33/360/)

Which from my readings of the tape measure has the top washers at 2-17/32 inch OD and 1-11/32 ID, while the lower washers look to be 2-1/4 inch OD and 1-11/32 inch ID.

I’m now a little confused as to why others are using different diameters to that of the lobby pack. I believe that lobby pack is a semi hero, is this correct? And does the fact of semi hero versus hero have any bearing on the size of these? I’m thinking not because from what I have read the semi’s are casts of the heros, but I always stand to be corrected on such things.

Is it a case that washers sized to the measured dimensions don’t fit Stefan’s plans correctly, which I have based my build off?

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**Author:** ![cpu64](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/cpu64/32/104792_2.png) [@cpu64](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/cpu64)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/57 "2015-05-21T14:59:25Z")

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I hope you torched that sucker up before bending it, haha!

Looking good!

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 3:04pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/58 "2015-05-21T15:04:26Z")

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Anyone who casually says “I bent a sold half inch square bar in to a circle” gets my vote.

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**Author:** ![galeap](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/dbc845/32.png) [@galeap](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/galeap)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 11:19am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/59 "2015-07-20T11:19:25Z")

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Hi everyone.

I’ve been away from the forum for a little while and thought that an update on the build is due. Before any pictures, I need to say thanks to Grimmy for some dimensional help, which helped me get my head around sizing of the [cyclotron](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/equipment/proton-pack/cyclotron) light washers. I had confused myself up big time regarding sizing of these after reading numerous threads and looking at the reference pics available. In the end I played around with scaled drawings of all the noted sizes and settled on a final size that I think looks ok.

Now for some photos. Joining the cyclotron to the spacer.

[![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/2/0/202638eff7d00b62226dd5d1ca753487d0190d01.jpeg)](http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/galeaorama/media/Proton%20Pack%20Build/2015-07-20%2020.32.46_zps91yvf8tz.jpg.html)

[![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/d/d/dd24e94258340e5a469c356be76f8fb1b39a53d3.jpeg)](http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/galeaorama/media/Proton%20Pack%20Build/2015-07-20%2020.33.30_zpsas2l3pfc.jpg.html)

[![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/a/0/a090f7580d1927cfdcba12d6f154d3babf80d877.jpeg)](http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/galeaorama/media/Proton%20Pack%20Build/2015-07-20%2020.34.38_zps3ote5r9r.jpg.html)

The plan was to weld the two parts together while catching the half inch ring around the cyclotron. The cyclotron and spacer joined up ok (although my weld looks super crappy, lucky it’s on the inside), but the weld didn’t take into the ring. I think that because the ring is solid aluminium it didn’t heat up enough to melt in with the edges of the other two sections. In the end I drilled and tapped the ring, and installed three small screws on the inside to hold it down tight.

Next step was to plug weld on the cosmetic plating. (Photo shows taking the plates on.) [![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/b/6/b6e6ee20223673bcebb258d78c6d8132afdf68cc.jpeg)](http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/galeaorama/media/Proton%20Pack%20Build/2015-07-20%2020.36.02_zpsm7jelotb.jpg.html)

From this I learnt a few things about plug welding aluminium. The most important is that the plug hole needs to be larger than you would think to allow the tip of the tig get in and cast an arc onto the plate below. The holes I drilled (8mm) were a bit small and it made the task really hard. I must have touch the tig tip down a dozen times doing this :(. I think they will hold ok though.

Final step was to mount the spacer that the Clippard valve sits on. (Clippard and cyclotron light washers are sitting lose in the photos).

[![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/5/9/59ba2b1155fd7aa4f893f04c8ee51f7952a8a381.jpeg)](http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/galeaorama/media/Proton%20Pack%20Build/2015-07-20%2020.37.06_zps5oquwl2n.jpg.html)

[![image](https://discdn.gbfans.com/original/3X/5/b/5b366d43144b23f7243985f39ca9a6e84e795cd7.jpeg)](http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/galeaorama/media/Proton%20Pack%20Build/2015-07-20%2020.38.04_zpsppeuej7p.jpg.html)

So… weather, work and family permitting I’m hoping to finish up the lower half of the build next weekend. Then it’s on to the N filter.

Cheers

Pete

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**Author:** ![thelegendofvix](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/thelegendofvix/32/6565_2.png) [@thelegendofvix](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/thelegendofvix)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 12:30pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/my-aluminium-scratch-build-pack-adventure-pic-heavy/20701/60 "2015-07-20T12:30:13Z")

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wow. just wow.

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