# Official HasLab Spengler Pack to Classic Pack conversion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Proton Packs\ **Created:** [December 4, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567 "2021-12-04T02:21:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kingpin](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/kingpin/32/188026_2.png) [@kingpin](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/kingpin)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/1 "2021-12-04T02:21:50Z")
Like the title says, this thread is for discussing how to convert the upcoming Haslab Spengler Pack into something resembling the 1984 or 1989 [Proton Packs](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/equipment/proton-pack). ---
**Author:** ![one-time](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/one-time/32/187068_2.png) [@one-time](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/one-time)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 3:56am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/2 "2021-12-04T03:56:08Z")
> [@Kingpin post\_id=4962577 time=1638583794 user\_id=76](#): > > From this moment on I would like to request the discussion stays on the topic of the HasLab Spengler release rather than veer any further into the hypothetical “Haslab '84 Pack” discussion. > > If Hasbro announces such a project we’ll create a new topic, but until then, the topic seems rather academic. > > Users are welcome to discuss their conversion plans for the upcoming Haslab Pack in this new thread: [Official HasLab Spengler Pack to Classic Pack conversion thread](https://www.gbfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48796). Ok here’s a discussion: As awesome as this whole thing is. And it is awesome. The only way we will be able to display this PP out of the box (with the attached hose, etc) is with a Spengler wand. I.e. as die hard fans who never got around to building a pack themselves, we still won’t be able to have an actual old school [proton pack](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/equipment/proton-pack) and wand. It will have to feature the “wooden grip” Hasbro wand. PS: This is not a 84 or 21 pack discussion, as for me both versions of the pack are near enough identical. Take a few pieces off and it’s an 84. It’s more the fact that people who never built their own pack and wand are stuck with displaying it with a Hasbro wooden front grip Spengler. So what solution are people considering to help that? Convert a Spengler to 2 black 84 finger grips? Or somehow fix another dummy hose attached to a Matty wand on the v hook? ---
**Author:** ![GhostFaceX](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/f6c823/32.png) [@GhostFaceX](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/GhostFaceX)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 3:59am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/3 "2021-12-04T03:59:57Z")
> [@One time](#): > > > [@Kingpin post\_id=4962577 time=1638583794 user\_id=76](#): > > > > From this moment on I would like to request the discussion stays on the topic of the HasLab Spengler release rather than veer any further into the hypothetical “Haslab '84 Pack” discussion. > > > > If Hasbro announces such a project we’ll create a new topic, but until then, the topic seems rather academic. > > > > Users are welcome to discuss their conversion plans for the upcoming Haslab Pack in this new thread: [Official HasLab Spengler Pack to Classic Pack conversion thread](https://www.gbfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48796). > > Ok here’s a discussion: > > As awesome as this whole thing is. And it is awesome. > > The only way we will be able to display this PP out of the box (with the attached hose, etc) is with a Spengler wand. > > I.e. as die hard fans who never got around to building a pack themselves, we still won’t be able to have an actual old school proton pack and wand. It will have to feature the “wooden grip” Hasbro wand. PS: This is not a 84 or 21 pack discussion, as for me both versions of the pack are near enough identical. Take a few pieces off and it’s an 84. > > It’s more the fact that people who never built their own pack and wand are stuck with displaying it with a Hasbro wooden front grip Spengler. So what solution are people considering to help that? > > Convert a Spengler to 2 black 84 finger grips? Or somehow fix another dummy hose attached to a Matty wand on the v hook? Yeah. The pack can pass, but I really would like a different wand at least, that would make a huge difference. ---
**Author:** ![one-time](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/one-time/32/187068_2.png) [@one-time](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/one-time)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 4:08am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/4 "2021-12-04T04:08:48Z")
> [@GhostFaceX post\_id=4962587 time=1638590397 user\_id=55377](#): > > > [@One time](#): > > > > Ok here’s a discussion: > > > > As awesome as this whole thing is. And it is awesome. > > > > The only way we will be able to display this PP out of the box (with the attached hose, etc) is with a Spengler wand. > > > > I.e. as die hard fans who never got around to building a pack themselves, we still won’t be able to have an actual old school proton pack and wand. It will have to feature the “wooden grip” Hasbro wand. PS: This is not a 84 or 21 pack discussion, as for me both versions of the pack are near enough identical. Take a few pieces off and it’s an 84. > > > > It’s more the fact that people who never built their own pack and wand are stuck with displaying it with a Hasbro wooden front grip Spengler. So what solution are people considering to help that? > > > > Convert a Spengler to 2 black 84 finger grips? Or somehow fix another dummy hose attached to a Matty wand on the v hook? > > Yeah. The pack can pass, but I really would like a different wand at least, that would make a huge difference. We don’t have one. Convert a Spengler? Build your own 84 wand? Or get a dummy hose and attach a Matty? The moment I receive this that will be my initial thought. I cant display this with a Hasbro Spengler. That’s just no go for an '84 nut. Which I have been since '84. I may just beef up the front grip on a Hasbro Spengler with some paper padding before covering both the front and rear grips with black tape. If I can’t be bothered to take stuff apart. Which I doubt I will be. ---
**Author:** ![jonogunn](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/jonogunn/32/186058_2.png) [@jonogunn](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/jonogunn)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 4:41am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/5 "2021-12-04T04:41:26Z")
> [@One time](#): > > > [@GhostFaceX post\_id=4962587 time=1638590397 user\_id=55377](#): > > > > Yeah. The pack can pass, but I really would like a different wand at least, that would make a huge difference. > > We don’t have one. Convert a Spengler? Build your own 84 wand? Or get a dummy hose and attach a Matty? > > The moment I receive this that will be my initial thought. I cant display this with a Hasbro Spengler. That’s just no go for an '84 nut. Which I have been since '84. > > I may just beef up the front grip on a Hasbro Spengler with some paper padding before covering both the front and rear grips with black tape. If I can’t be bothered to take stuff apart. Which I doubt I will be. How comfortable are you with using a dremel on the wand? ---
**Author:** ![thawke](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/thawke/32/141297_2.png) [@thawke](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/thawke)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 4:45am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/6 "2021-12-04T04:45:22Z")
I’m a little surprised that I haven’t really seen anyone make a 3D printed '84 front grip capable of just fitting over the wood grip with little to no modification of the wood grip necessary. That would be a slam dunk item. It might be a bit chunkier than the actual '84 grip was, but it could still be a good option for those wanting an '84 thrower. ---
**Author:** ![jonogunn](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/jonogunn/32/186058_2.png) [@jonogunn](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/jonogunn)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 4:50am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/7 "2021-12-04T04:50:47Z")
> [@THawke post\_id=4962593 time=1638593122 user\_id=41640](#): > > I’m a little surprised that I haven’t really seen anyone make a 3D printed '84 front grip capable of just fitting over the wood grip with little to no modification of the wood grip necessary. That would be a slam dunk item. It might be a bit chunkier than the actual '84 grip was, but it could still be a good option for those wanting an '84 thrower. Actually someone from this forum did when it was first released. However it doesn’t look quite right. The wooden grip sticks out too much so even if you add it on it looks off. ---
**Author:** ![thawke](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/thawke/32/141297_2.png) [@thawke](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/thawke)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 5:01am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/8 "2021-12-04T05:01:33Z")
> [@jonogunn post\_id=4962595 time=1638593447 user\_id=23412](#): > > > [@THawke post\_id=4962593 time=1638593122 user\_id=41640](#): > > > > I’m a little surprised that I haven’t really seen anyone make a 3D printed '84 front grip capable of just fitting over the wood grip with little to no modification of the wood grip necessary. That would be a slam dunk item. It might be a bit chunkier than the actual '84 grip was, but it could still be a good option for those wanting an '84 thrower. > > Actually someone from this forum did when it was first released. However it doesn’t look quite right. The wooden grip sticks out too much so even if you add it on it looks off. Hmm, I kind of figured there had to be a reason why it hadn’t been done on a large scale. I suppose if a printed grip was thin enough overall to not look off, it’d be too structurally weak to actually grip without being crushed. Well darn. ---
**Author:** ![GhostFaceX](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/f6c823/32.png) [@GhostFaceX](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/GhostFaceX)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 6:47am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/9 "2021-12-04T06:47:47Z")
Here’s a question..to those that have both, which is more comfortable, an 84 front grip or the shotgun grip? ---
**Author:** ![venomsymbiote](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/venomsymbiote/32/187659_2.png) [@venomsymbiote](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/venomsymbiote)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/10 "2021-12-04T07:15:43Z")
Honestly I’ve always loved wood grips and stocks on guns in games since I was little. I just like the look. So when Egon’s upgraded wand had the shotgun pump as a handle I was pretty damn pleased with it. I love the original films to death but some minor tweaks like the wood grip I actually like, thankfully. I’m just happy they kept the iconic packs looking 99% the same with just minor tweaks. Lends itself well to being modified for those that really want to too. ---
**Author:** ![zeta-otaku](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/zeta-otaku/32/186411_2.png) [@zeta-otaku](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/zeta-otaku)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 7:18am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/11 "2021-12-04T07:18:04Z")
They’re both pretty comfortable. I kinda prefer the shotgun grip in some situations as you don’t have to worry about finger placement to look “right”. while you DO need to modify the entire front barrel to “fix” the grip, I’m kind of amazed no one has come up with a complete barrel replacement for the Spengler wand. I may have to work on some 3D files myself at this point. ---
**Author:** ![ghostware](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/ghostware/32/188009_2.png) [@ghostware](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/ghostware)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 7:53am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/12 "2021-12-04T07:53:26Z")
There is no longer the need to discuss this is in the hasbro pulse thread. ---
**Author:** ![kingpin](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/kingpin/32/188026_2.png) [@kingpin](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/kingpin)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 8:32am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/13 "2021-12-04T08:32:14Z")
> [@timeware post\_id=4962604 time=1638604406 user\_id=5230](#): > > There is no longer the need to discuss this is in the hasbro pulse thread. This topic was created to keep the main HasLab pack thread on topic. Despite requests from two moderators a lot of the recent discussion has veered towards how to convert the pack into a 1984 one, and at times it’s derailed the actual discussion about the pack replica. ---
**Author:** ![ProtonPack83](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/4491bb/32.png) [@ProtonPack83](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/ProtonPack83)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/14 "2021-12-04T13:27:31Z")
> [@THawke post\_id=4962593 time=1638593122 user\_id=41640](#): > > I’m a little surprised that I haven’t really seen anyone make a 3D printed '84 front grip capable of just fitting over the wood grip with little to no modification of the wood grip necessary. That would be a slam dunk item. It might be a bit chunkier than the actual '84 grip was, but it could still be a good option for those wanting an '84 thrower. A real slam dunk item would be for Hasbro to release an actual 84’ wand. The best part is, the Spengler wand had it’s chance and wide release - they are never doing it again. The next one HAS to be an 84’ wand - every other wand in the movie is an 84’ wand, so let’s go already Hasbro! ---
**Author:** ![thawke](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/thawke/32/141297_2.png) [@thawke](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/thawke)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 2:33pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/15 "2021-12-04T14:33:49Z")
> [@ProtonPack83 post\_id=4962618 time=1638624451 user\_id=38129](#): > > > [@THawke post\_id=4962593 time=1638593122 user\_id=41640](#): > > > > I’m a little surprised that I haven’t really seen anyone make a 3D printed '84 front grip capable of just fitting over the wood grip with little to no modification of the wood grip necessary. That would be a slam dunk item. It might be a bit chunkier than the actual '84 grip was, but it could still be a good option for those wanting an '84 thrower. > > A real slam dunk item would be for Hasbro to release an actual 84’ wand. The best part is, the Spengler wand had it’s chance and wide release - they are never doing it again. The next one HAS to be an 84’ wand - every other wand in the movie is an 84’ wand, so let’s go already Hasbro! Have you contacted Hasbro directly to voice your opinions/concerns to them? Instead of continuously focusing on something Hasbro is _not_ making, I’d rather focus on what they _are_ making, and what I can do with it. Honestly, it seems that instead of telling us the same thing over and over again, you would be better served by trying to organize an online campaign to let Hasbro know just how many people do want an '84 pack. From what I’ve seen so far, it appears most here are perfectly content with the Spengler pack as it’s being presented. ---
**Author:** ![kingpin](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/kingpin/32/188026_2.png) [@kingpin](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/kingpin)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/16 "2021-12-04T16:14:35Z")
> [@ProtonPack83 post\_id=4962618 time=1638624451 user\_id=38129](#): > > A real slam dunk item would be for Hasbro to release an actual 84’ wand. The best part is, the Spengler wand had it’s chance and wide release - they are never doing it again. The next one HAS to be an 84’ wand - every other wand in the movie is an 84’ wand, so let’s go already Hasbro! Actually, the wand on Wrecto-1 is largely a match for the Spengler wand. With that said, I want to lay things out so there’s no confusion: This topic is here to discuss how to mod the HasLab pack to look like one of the classic Packs. **_Not_** to repeat what’s already been said in the main HasLab pack thread about Hasbro’s choice to do a 2021 Pack instead of a 1984 one. You’ve had the opportunity to voice your views on the project as have others, so it’s time to move on from what could’ve been to what is being released. ---
**Author:** ![one-time](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/one-time/32/187068_2.png) [@one-time](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/one-time)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 7:49pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/17 "2021-12-04T19:49:01Z")
> [@GhostFaceX post\_id=4962601 time=1638600467 user\_id=55377](#): > > Here’s a question..to those that have both, which is more comfortable, an 84 front grip or the shotgun grip? 84, by far. By far. The shotgun grip makes the thrower feel like any other rifle type weapon. The 84 double finger grip, with its 90 degree offset front to rear, really makes it feel like a mysterious tool designed to go beserk and that needs to be gripped tightly. I don’t really know why they got rid of that unique feature by making one of the grips a boring shotgun grip. ---
**Author:** ![fritz](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/fritz/32/10773_2.png) [@fritz](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/fritz)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/18 "2021-12-04T20:00:15Z")
My own guess would be it’s far more likely they’ll make an '84 thrower than an entire '84 proton pack–especially as they do seem to have “snuck” in some ability to modify the GBA pack to look more like the '84. But as always, it all comes down to 1.) What they’re allowed to do from the license and 2.) Whether they think it will sell enough to make it worth doing. ---
**Author:** ![bison256](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/bison256/32/186112_2.png) [@bison256](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/bison256)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/19 "2021-12-04T20:33:21Z")
> [@One time](#): > > > [@GhostFaceX post\_id=4962601 time=1638600467 user\_id=55377](#): > > > > Here’s a question..to those that have both, which is more comfortable, an 84 front grip or the shotgun grip? > > 84, by far. By far. > > The shotgun grip makes the thrower feel like any other rifle type weapon. > > The 84 double finger grip, with its 90 degree offset front to rear, really makes it feel like a mysterious tool designed to go beserk and that needs to be gripped tightly. > > I don’t really know why they got rid of that unique feature by making one of the grips a boring shotgun grip. Because it’s supposed to look jury rigged. The idea is Egon couldn’t afford to fix it properly so he worked with what materials he had on hand. ---
**Author:** ![gerard55](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/dec6dc/32.png) [@gerard55](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/gerard55)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567/20 "2021-12-04T22:12:51Z")
> [@ProtonPack83 post\_id=4962618 time=1638624451 user\_id=38129](#): > > > [@THawke post\_id=4962593 time=1638593122 user\_id=41640](#): > > > > I’m a little surprised that I haven’t really seen anyone make a 3D printed '84 front grip capable of just fitting over the wood grip with little to no modification of the wood grip necessary. That would be a slam dunk item. It might be a bit chunkier than the actual '84 grip was, but it could still be a good option for those wanting an '84 thrower. > > A real slam dunk item would be for Hasbro to release an actual 84’ wand. The best part is, the Spengler wand had it’s chance and wide release - they are never doing it again. The next one HAS to be an 84’ wand - every other wand in the movie is an 84’ wand, so let’s go already Hasbro! Would be nice to get an 84 wand, the only offical one so far was…pretty ■■■■ to be blunt. Light, flimsy, had a black [hat light](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/equipment/proton-pack/hat-lights) for some inexplicable reason and black banjos despite them being brass (seemed uinfinished), the firing sound was like a 2 second loop and they couldn’t even get the name right. How does an offical product end up with the wrong name? I did sorta like the mechanical wand extension but it didn’t extend nearly enough. For the 84 wand they could use most of what makes the spengler wand, the main changes are the grips so it might not be that much of an issue to do a line of 84 wands. [Next page](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/official-haslab-spengler-pack-to-classic-pack-conversion-thread/28567.md?page=2)