# Why no Villain Figures? **URL:** \ **Category:** Collectibles\ **Created:** [June 5, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/why-no-villain-figures/20007 "2024-06-05T17:38:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![riverofslime](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/riverofslime/32/4060_2.png) [@riverofslime](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/riverofslime)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/why-no-villain-figures/20007/1 "2024-06-05T17:38:58Z")
Like the Playmobil line of a few years ago the 4" Hasbro figure lines for 2021 and 2024 didn’t include the villains. **What’s up with that? Is it just a likeness/licensing thing?** We didn’t get a Garraka or Gozer in the kids line, just like there was no Vigo or Gozer in Playmobil. ---
**Author:** ![mardin\_chatzuk](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mardin\_chatzuk](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/mardin_chatzuk)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/why-no-villain-figures/20007/2 "2024-06-06T15:22:19Z")
Also really would’ve liked to see some villain figures, especially a Gozer in that [Fright Features](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/toys/kenner/fright-features) line. Plastic Geek made quite a nice custom one. ---
**Author:** ![riverofslime](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/riverofslime/32/4060_2.png) [@riverofslime](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/riverofslime)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/why-no-villain-figures/20007/3 "2024-06-06T16:20:02Z")
Yeah, I mean, why Hasbro didn’t read the room and just so a continuation of RGB is a whole other question! That’s why people were snapping up those Fantazm Toys figures. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Venkman\_Jr](https://forum.gbfans.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Peter\_Venkman\_Jr](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/Peter_Venkman_Jr)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/why-no-villain-figures/20007/4 "2024-06-06T18:33:45Z")
This is a question; I have asked myself a few times. I would think that if you’re doing a stylized take on a movie character (like Playmobil or Hasbro’s GB [Fright Features](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/toys/kenner/fright-features) line) it would not be that hard to produce. I recall seeing a drawing that a fellow Ghost Head did around the time Playmobil’s [The Real Ghostbusters](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/games/the-real-ghostbusters-activison) and [Ghostbusters II](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/games/ghostbusters-ii-activision) assortment was coming out of a Playmobil style Vigo and it looked terrific. As for no Gozer in the Fright Features [Afterlife](https://www.gbfans.com/shop/ghostbusters-afterlife) line or Garraka in the Fright Features [Frozen Empire](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/ghostbusters-frozen-empire) line, I am guessing that it was either an oversight on Hasbro’s part or just poor planning in general. I have heard online through a number of news outlets that Hasbro has been having issues internally, especially with owning so many major brands under one roof. Also, with the new managers they got in the wake of the sudden death of CEO Brian Goldner in October 2021, likely did not help the company either since Goldner had different plans than what the current leaders want to do. ---
**Author:** ![riverofslime](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/riverofslime/32/4060_2.png) [@riverofslime](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/riverofslime)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/why-no-villain-figures/20007/5 "2024-06-11T00:48:48Z")
Whatever it may be, it’s extremely bizarre to have such incomplete toy lines. I also wondered why the switch to the stretchy ghosts for the [Frozen Empire](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/ghostbusters-frozen-empire) toy line? The easiest guess is that it was cheaper of course. Love the companion ghosts in all GB lines. ---
**Author:** ![kingpin](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/kingpin/32/187259_2.png) [@kingpin](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/kingpin)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/why-no-villain-figures/20007/6 "2024-06-18T23:59:15Z")
I do wonder if it’s a rights issue. When Diamond Select were making _Ghostbusters_ figures, there were notable absences of familiar ghosts from their _[Ghostbusters II](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/games/ghostbusters-ii-activision)_ wave, with Vigo being the exception (probably because [Wilhelm von Homburg](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/people/wilhelm-von-homburg) had died in 2004)… Unlike the MattyCollector line, we didn’t get the Subway Ghost, or the Scoleris. I dimly remember there being an issue with ILM, who owned the design rights to the ghosts (which might’ve been the reason why Vigo’s demonic head was sculpted by [Mattel](https://www.gbfans.com/wiki/toys/mattel), but ultimately never made it into the public release of the figure). I don’t know why Diamond were able to secure more of the designs for the Minimates line, but maybe there was more flexibility with them because they were stylised humans? ---
**Author:** ![riverofslime](https://forum.gbfans.com/user_avatar/forum.gbfans.com/riverofslime/32/4060_2.png) [@riverofslime](https://forum.gbfans.com/u/riverofslime)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.gbfans.com/t/why-no-villain-figures/20007/7 "2024-06-19T15:13:40Z")
Yeah, Minimates is a funny one. I haven’t looked super closely at them (because I don’t want to risk getting sucked in) but they covered a lot of ground! I’m a big fan of minimates in general and if I hadn’t already gone all in on GB Playmobil I might have gone with MInimates instead.