Ecto Goggle Build - March 8th

As work on the Proton Pack is presently on hold as I wait for Exoray to release his resin Bumpers, I’ve spent the last few weeks concentrating on another item of Ghostbusting equipment I’ve wanted, and recently had a renewed interest following the UK Ghostbusters’ return to the Movieum (which’ll be posted here, shortly).

My interest was renewed after Mark from our group leant me, and then gave me his old set of Ecto Goggles to use. Getting to wear them was awesome, and has strengthened my own determination to get my set done.

The lineage of these resin frames are that they’re cast from a real PVS-5 frame which I bought from GBUK Elite member, Andy Grey. They were then moulded and cast by Xenepp, shortly before he decided to try cheat several members out of the money they’d paid for them for which was one of the things he was eventually banned for.

Fortunately I did get the original frame back, as well as three of the resin ones he’d promised… but sadly none of the Goggle Knobs were produced. In addition to this, I never received the mould he promised he’d send. I’d already concluded that he probably wouldn’t send it, so I wasn’t exactly surprised when it never turned up.

The first stage was the clean up. The way Joel had cast them, there was a thick lip of resin flashing sticking out around the edge of the frame which would be up against the wearer’s face. There was also a layer of flashing where the wearer’s nose would go, which had to be removed.

This was done by using a Dremel to cut away the flashing close to the frame, and then sand it down using an appropriate sanding bit. As you can see there’s still a raised bit where the flashing was left on the frame. I’m not too concerned about this left-over material as it’s flat enough should I decide to wear it on my face without padding, and should I decide to use padding, it’ll be covered up.

In addition to the “face edge”, the flashing was also trimmed in the hole where the battery cover will eventually reside, as well as the holes on the sides where the side knobs will go.

Once cleaned up, I set my sight on the lenses. I already had a length of 36mm piping and a length of 41mm piping which I’d used for my Filler Plugs on my Proton Pack and knew that the 36mm piping fitting beautifully in the 42mm piping, so I set out to the DIY stores to find a length of piping smaller than 36mm for the end of the longer lense, and for something larger than 42mm for the bases of both lenses.

The smaller piece of piping was found in the form of a 32mm Trap-Inlet Heigh Adjuster, produced by Marley and sold by B&Q.

The larger piece of piping was a 40mm Solvent Weld Pipe Connector, sold by Wickes. The nice thing about the Pipe Connector is it has a small rib on the inside half-way down which the 36mm piece rests on nicely. With the bits gathered together, I was able to prepare a prototype:

The prototype developed quickly into the final product, and the appropriate lengths of piping were cut. For the measurements I used Busybuildr’s lense plans. By his own admition they’re eyeballed, and one of the measurements is wrong, but in the absense of anything more specific, they’re as good as any.

To make them lighter, the piping sections don’t share the same base, as seen by the lense on the right:

Once the lenses were cut, I placed them in what would serve as the lense base, to see how much material would have to be cut from it.

I then approached the subject of the thumbscrews. I had no idea how easily it would be to find some machined bits of metal that I could buy for the thumbscrews, so I settled on something I knew would work: The adjusters of a wind up alarm clock. I knew I had at least one clock I could cannibalize, and I could surely find another in one of the charity shops in town.

Well, after two towns and 13 charity shops, I finally managed to find one wind-up alarm clock I could knick these parts from. With them collected, I worked out what positions I wanted them to be placed in, and then drilled holes in the piping that corresponded to the differing sizes of the thumbscrews. I also drilled, and cut a small block of wood to go at the front of the silver section of the longer Goggle lense.

Satisfied with the placement of the thumbscrews and the arrangement of the lengths of pipe, I proceeded to hotglue them into place.

Which was then followed up by a course of priming.

Which was then completed with painting. The photo below is a splice of two, the one with no flash which better shows the black segments, and the one with flash which better shows the silver segment. The silver segment is the Audi silver I’d used on the Clippard Valve on my Proton Gun, the black is Gloss black from Halford’s.

By the time the painting and priming was finished, the Silver segment was thick enough that it could’ve held in the black base of the longer lense without glue, but in the pursuit of durability, this portion will be glued. The glue, once dry, will be painted black.

Once I was satisfied with the finished paint job, I proceeded to glue the thumbscrews into the holes and the block on the silver lense.

Once again, this glue will be painted.

The next stage after that was the faceplate, which was cut from a sheet of Plywood. The holes were cut using my Dad’s DIY Drill press and the edges cut with the Jigsaw. Still a relative newbie with the jig I enlisted my Dad’s services, which is just as well as it kept veering to the left.

Once the faceplate was cut from the plywood, the top corners were sanded so it would fit into the frame. The middle section of the plate was also filed down because of the way the frame is shaped on the inside. After that, two strips of MDF from the old Proton Pack Center plate were cut to fill the gaps at the sides of the front of the frame, in front of the Faceplate, as seen in the photo above.

That concludes the first part of the Ecto Goggle build. There sadly won’t be any work tomorrow as I’ll be at a friend’s wedding, but there should hopefully be some work on Sunday.

Lookin good so far

Looking good Ben!! Keep up the good work!

I got a question where did you get the 41mm piping from,

And is that the inside or outside diameter?

thanks

The 41mm pipe was from Wickes, and that’s the outside diameter. The inside is about 36mm.

The 36mm length of pipe was from B&Q and has a inside diameter of 32mm.

Dam. I was hopeing it was the ID.

Oh well I’ll keep looking

2 towns and 13 charity shops!! That’s dedication to the cause!

Looking good Ben. Nice to see my old goggles gave some inspiration. Should be recieving my new set from gb_dan soon!

Xenepp :angryvigo: Grrrrr!!!

I know, I’ve caught the prop bug. :slight_smile:

I’m hoping to do a little more work tomorrow evening, although the next few weeks are uncertain, as I have some important paperwork I have to file which will muck up my normal daily plans. The next immediate steps are to recut the second strip of MDF which is going to fill in that gap at the front of the frame, as well as drill the faceplate for the socket cap screws.

Quite fortunate I got a bundle of them when I went to get some for the HGA at Screw Fix. Let me know if you’d be interested in getting some, I believe there are four set into the faceplate.

Awesome, I look forward to seeing your own build. :slight_smile:

I know. :sigh:

I’m gonna be ordering some more lens knobs once my next run kicks off. I’ll throw some in the mail with your battery box. Do you need side knobs too?

Rob, you are awesome.

As for side knobs, I’m covered. When Nick had a go at trying to mould the frame after I got it back from Xenepp, he was able to cast up a few sets of side knobs easily, so I I think I have enough of those. :slight_smile:

Who is Rob? LOL

Oooh, so that’s where these frames came from. I have the same ones. I can tell by the sort of drippy looking parts on the back. Got them second hand a while back and wasn’t sure of the origin. I’ve just finished sanding off all the little nubs and snaps so that I can put the real deal on there. I’ve been feeling sort of lazy, so I’ve made the pattern for the face plate but it’s just sitting there next to the wood waiting to be done. One of these days.

Yours are coming along quite nicely. Good call on the wind up clock, that silver dial you have looks perfect. The silver part of the lenses, however, looks like it could use a sanding and then light misting of paint. It just looks a little gritty. That might just be the pictures, though. They’re looking great overall. You managed to find some great sized piping. I can’t seem to find much in the ways of thin walled stuff and I really don’t like the look of the thicker walled PVC for the lenses.

Gah! Dan. DAN!

Sorry, too many people with “GB” at the start of their name.

It’s not just the pictures… in fact the black sections are also a bit gritty… not sure why it did that as the pipes were sanded down and didn’t have any obvious particles left on them… but I don’t mind as these are going to be my “stunt” pair.

It took a while looking through two DIY stores to find enough bits that fitted into each other.

Goodluck in finding some thin walled PVC.

Where’d ya get the thumbscrews? I went to three different hardwre stores and couldn’t find anything remotely like that.

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Gah, I missed the bit where you explained about the clock.

Alarm clocks are one option, some lamp switches are another (go to gb_dan’s) Goggle Lense topic in the marketplace to find a link for them, but keep in mind they are pricey.

I got some minor work done today, although I’ll hold off going into detail for the next big part I post. Unfortunately I may have to remake the lenses depending on whether or not I’ve cocked something up.

I’ll post when I’ve reached a decision regarding them.

Ben, how are you going to attach the battery cap? I’ve just got my goggles set from gb_dan and am wondering how to make it “openable” … on second thoughts, I’ll probably just glue it on actually… I’ll make the side knobs turnable though.

Taking a look at his, I might be able to glue it in around the rim where it fits into the Goggle frame. I might even be able to drill a hole part-way in for a cap head screw, which would then pass through a plate of wood which would be glued to the inside of the frameand then glue the screw in place.

That should hold it in nicely.

No idea how to practically make it openable.

Wow, half a year…

There should be (all things going in my favor) a update on the Goggles by no later than Sunday, as I’ve gotten a lot of work done over the past few days.

Stay tuned!

This update covers the period of February 8th - 14th.

The project wasn’t completely inactive for the last six months, but as time drew closer to the parade work had to be shelved to get the Proton Pack assembled and the details attached.

However in that time, a small bag of goodies arrived, which had been one of the other reasons the Ecto Goggle build had been put on hold, a set of resin thumbscrews and PVS-5 battery caps - more on those later.

Before beginning I got all the parts together for a group photo, which includes a second set of Lenses I’d decided to assemble for a couple of reasons, some of which I’ll also detail later.

The first step in restarting the project was to smooth out the nasty grained finish of the wood that would end up being the faceplate, and to fill in the chunk that’d been gouged out when it was being shaped to fit the frame.

The material of choice for this was Polycell, which thankfully didn’t have the strong smell that came with my choice of Bondo, nor did it need to be mixed with another chemical so it would set, although it had the consistency of cottage cheese in trying to get it out of the tube.

Another reminder of why Summer is the choice season for proppers, that and the frigging temperature and the effect it has on paint drying, not to mention how willing you are to work in the garage.

As it dried I turned my attention to the harness. I finally buckled and bought a real set after my brief experimentation with making a homemade one, thankfully I finally found one I felt was as reasonably priced as I was going to get ($30 is often the lowest I’ve seen a genuine harness going for).

Like Cous3 had found with his own harness (as documented in his thread at GBFans), the lead snap-head had been made with a small tab in it, presumably to fit in a specific notch on the top-most snap-base on the frame.

However, it became apparent that due to this oddity, the snap would not fit onto the genuine PVS-5 frame I owned, nor any snap I applied to the resin copies of it, so the existing snap had to go.

Using the same method I’d used to remove the annoying rivet from my Proton Pack Motherboard, I drilled the central post of the snap until it’d sheared the top off, separating the two halves.

Removed, I applied a new snap of a similar colour which I’d gotten from the local Haberdashery.

I’d also found out that this set of snaps would work with the original ones on the harness, saving me the trouble of having to remove the other two.

Next stop: Drilling the side knobs. The side knobs here are resin copies of the side knobs I got with the frame from Andy Gray and were cast by the awesome Nick-a-tron.

With the faceplate dry, I polycelled the back of it, and was eventually able to glue it and two small strips of scrap board from my Pack’s old Center Plate to fill the gaps in front of the faceplate.

It used a ton of hotglue, but that faceplate shouldn’t be going anywhere anytime soon.

Hopefully.

Once the glue had set, I gave the frame a treatment of polycell to fill in the gaps as much as possible, including the gaps at the sides for the Side Knobs.

It was time to turn my attention to the new lenses. These new lenses came about for a couple of reasons:

  1. I wasn’t pleased with the paint finish on the existing ones, as I’d sanded them down.

  2. An accident had led to one of the metal thumbscrews I’d scavenged from that alarm clock going missing.

  3. One of the holes I’d drilled into the short of the two lenses was too large.

With these in mind I decided to remake them with the spare materials I had, especially as I had some items for them which had not yet arrived back in December.

The parts in question were a set of resin thumbscrews which had been made by gb_dan, which in reality were a set of switch knobs for a table lamp. The quality of these are excellent, and he sent enough to do several sets of lenses.

Whilst assembling the lenses, I hit a snag. Each lense fits into larger base which will then be glued into the frames, however due to the limited number of items that were the right size, I’d had to select something that was a few millimeters too big, and it meant I couldn’t simply glue the lenses in due to the size of the gap.

I figured a rubber washer would get the job done, as it’d hold the lense into the base tighter than any glue would. Going through my dad’s wider selection of washers, we were able to find a gauge that would work with the lenses, although annoyingly the size of the gap not only pooved too big to hold onto the lenses by itself, but also proved extremely tight to fit the washers into. My Dad managed to get the first one together and I managed to get the second one assembled, thanks largely to the use of a screwdriver.

It was this part of the Ecto Goggles that wound up with me drawing blood, and oddly it wasn’t caused by the screwdriver.

With the lenses finally set into their bases, I treated all of the assembled parts to a course of primer before painting.

Once they’d been primed, the thumbscrews were removed from the lenses and set into a row of holes I’d drilled in some scrap wood from the replacement Pack Center Plate for painting. I wanted to keep the bases unpainted and unprimed so that when they were glued in, the hot glue would be attaching itself to the resin, rather than a layer of paint or primer.

The same process will be applied to the four cap head screws that’ll be going into the faceplate.

With the primer dry, the resin PVS-5 frame was given a coat of Halfords Leaf Green…

… whilst the lenses and side knobs were painted Halfords gloss black.

The side knobs pictured aren’t the ones I’d drilled, as I’d found when installing the faceplate that there was no room to run a bolt for the Side Knobs through the hole in the side of the frame, which was why I’d filled them in with Polycell.

Once finished, the Side Knobs will be glued on with Uhu.

Looks pretty good so far. How are you planning to attach the lenses? I never did figure that out on mine (although I’ve since gotten an idea…).