..In terms of somehow keeping the original Fab Four (or some incarnation of them) largely present in the film’s plot with the new crop of female ghostbusters involved; almost like a partnership (like Charlize Theron’s Furiosa character in Fury Road)…do you think would fans have been more forgiving of the direction of this film? I mean, the idea of a “passing of the torch”-style GB film was always kicked around anyway, but I think the total & sudden restructuring of it with longtime fans having waited for so long (with the Hellbent script floating around online, Dan Aykroyd’s teasing of the project, etc.) just sticks the knife in a little deeper, no?
The problem is because the way things were at that moment, a canon continuation could just never happen. Sony still wants an expanded universe, and the leak mentions starting up another movie that will connect to the 80’s busters once the reboot is past the point of no return.
yes i think it would be great if there is a sequel. fans like us will definitely become more excited with the sequel because we will not have any idea on how it will start and how it will end. plus an addition for excitement and thrill will be very effective.
When I think of rushed, uneven messes, I think of something like the Stepford Wives remake, where the tone was all over the place and the plot and themes nearly incoherent. GB16 has a consistent tone, whether you prefer it or not. And its plot and themes are pretty straightforward. Stop villain who brought a ton of ghosts into the world, and have the girls gain some much yearned for recognition at the end.
I’m all for a continuation, and yes I think that fans would have been more accepting of that, but Fury Road might be the wrong comparison. The Force Awakens already did was Ghostbusters 2016 failed to do; They captured the spirit of the original films, brought back the characters that current fans already know and love, then introduced new characters for future generations, AND the new lead is a young woman. They also managed to plan 15 other films in this expanded universe.
‘Creed’ is another example. They basically remade the original Rocky movie and rebooted the franchise with a new lead character, who they’ll be continuing the franchise with, but it was done in a respectful way that kept the Rocky character relevant and it made fans happy and attracted a new audience.
Force Awakens captured the spirit of a Marvel film. Which is cool, they’re fun and all. They’re just not Star Wars. Star Wars’ humor came from the occasional wry observations of the characters, not constant attempts to fish for laughs. Ironically, this is the very thing GB16 gets accused of!
And while GB16’s characters could have been more fleshed out, I’d say the same thing about FA’s characters times a billion.
And GB16 merely being a reboot doesn’t say disrespect to me. Cameos have been considered a respectful tribute since the dawn of film. Fans are only calling them disrespectful because they’re not exactly what they wanted. It’s like a kid on Christmas morning asking for Malibu Barbie and freaking out because they got Hawaiian Barbie instead.
I have found across the internet that typically people who really support the GB remake are the same people that say The Force Awakens wasn’t a good movie, or it rehashed too much from ANH.
I loved TFA enough to go see it three times in the theater. It also made 2-billion dollars box office, billions in toys sales, jump started the movie franchise, etc. etc. etc. But according to a lot of those same people – none of that stuff matters.
However, somehow, GB2016 doing NONE of those things even close to the same degree is a positive for GB2016.
Do not underestimate the power of the Hype. I’m not sure Star Wars can make a movie its fans won’t support. I’m not saying that’s either good or bad. It’s simply a loyalty few franchises will ever have.
On a side note, when I think of toy sales, I can only picture underpaid Chinese factory workers. I try not to get into those conversations too much.
I would have to disagree, and while you are welcomed to that opinion I would say that you would probably have to accept it as a minority opinion. If anything, the majority of the the criticism is that it is too much like the originals.
But Star Wars isn’t a comedy, it’s fantasy/sci-fi that happens to have some humorous moments. Had The Force Awakens gotten wrong the core of what Star Wars is, then perhaps it wouldn’t have been as well received.
Star Wars made 3 of them actually, they’re called episodes 1, 2, and 3. Those movies nearly killed my love for Star Wars, and I know I am not alone there. The Force Awakens restored that love and brought me back to Star Wars. GB2016 did the opposite for me.
As for fan loyalty, SW has the numbers sure, but GB’s have heart. Star Wars has had much more exposure over the years than Ghostbusters and yet GB fans kept the franchise alive through the darkest years when there was no public presence or any hope for anything new at all. You tell me who is the more loyal.
GB 2016 doesn’t have the support that TFA and Fury Road has because ATC was a bad movie. It’s really that simple.
That’s precisely what I was saying. I’m just not sure FA understood that.
And when people say FA is too similar, they mean it hit too many of the same plot beats. They aren’t talking about the tone of the movie which, as I said, is nothing at all like the originals.
And that’s fine about being a minority opinion. Bayformers are consistently box office successes. Glad I’m not part of that majority opinion.
