Bob's Prop Shop - Videobob - Robert (Bob) Moseley

Videobob strikes again.

This time recasting MMM’s HGA.

VideoBob:

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MMM:

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MMM unfortunately sold an HGA to Videobob back in December on eBay.. where once someone has won / purchased something… it is hard to back out of without the risk of negative feedback.

MMM sells his for $15. Videobob sells his recasted copy for $25.

Classy guy

Ok, so if you’re reselling it why not credit the original maker instead of making it look like it’s a part of your regular inventory? When I resell someones parts I always give credit to the person who made it and state that this is a one off. Notice also it says in his description that it’s a solid cast…mine are hollow!

Classic Blob. Now trying to backstep his way out of the recasting claim.

That must be the ‘grey’ ThrowingChicken was talking about.

If you’ll notice now AJ he has now removed that comment from his page

another shovel full…

Bob’s Prop Shop (Official Fan Page) This is a part sold on ebay my Multimediamayhem. it was white and hollow. I filled it on with solid resin to make itmeasier to mount and then painted it black. I was simply going to mount it to my own pack to get it ready in a hurry however…, After examining it I have decided to go ahead and do these myself. I was going to avoid doing some of these smallerarts and the let the other people on ebay who already sell this type of stuff continue, but my fans demand a better partt and are willing to pay a few extra bucks for a part that is cadt in black and easy to mount.

and..

Bob’s Prop Shop (Official Fan Page) So post that on gbfans…

What a classic attempt at trying to back peddle your way into people believing you were doing the right thing from the beginning. Lets dissect EXACTLY what Blob said.

Bob claims the photo is of the original MMM purchased part that he resin filled and then painted black.

However. This photo was also accompanied by two other photos of Bob’s latest (horrible) resin cast creations. Injector tubes and an Ion Arm. Both of which are cast in black resin.

Then lets go back to the quote:

Therefore we already know that Bob uses black resin. If you compare the three photographs together is should be apparent that they are all three resin cast in black. All three are resin cast copies and not master items.

Then you have information from Irricanian (who knows his own stuff inside and out) and noted that the HGA is not exactly the same as the one he sold. Its been modified slightly. The holes on the side are slightly different. It looks like Videobob changed the MMM HGA slightly before recasting it.

Then it comes to the very last point. If (and I only mean this hypothetically, because we all know he did).. if Videobob did not recast MMM’s HGA… why would he post it on his Facebook page showing off the new parts, if in fact they weren’t his to begin with? That’s a form of theft in the first place. Showing off a product that someone else makes and claiming it as your own.

Which we go back to the quote. If its MMM’s work, and you are showing it off.. why post this to cover it up?

Why post that crappy part (not saying as an attack on MMM’s work, but rather as opposition to Blob’s “better part” claim) if you tell people you’re gonna do your own that’s better? Are we to believe that you posted 3 images of parts, and one was supposed to be a oh this part is crappy we’re gonna do it better.??

No. What we see here is a blatant attempt at attacking a competitors product, after having claimed it as your own. (Because, it is your own.. because you recast it.) This is a backhanded approach at trying to promote your product, while covering up the fact that its recast.

And then we have this gem:

You heard it here first. He was just going to let everyone on eBay sell the small parts. But not anymore. Blob will be rolling around and absorbing all your sales with his far superior (and expensive products):

Yeah. You’re fans sure do demand a higher quality part.

So these are supposed to be one off parts he bought from other sellers on Ebay …, then how come i can buy 4 of each on his website

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HGA Resin Casting (with screws)

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24.99 quantity: 4

$99.96

Ion Arm Casting

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$99.96

Injector Tubes Casting

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$139.96

Item total:$339.88Shipping and handling: $22.97Total:$362.85 USD

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If anyone on GBfans has purchased one of these products from Videobob/ bob’s prop shop recently PLEASE come forward and let us know, by PM if you don’t want to do it publicly. Your assistance in getting to the bottom of this issue would be most appreciated by the community.

Thanks

Well if that’s not already a rip off, looks like Blob charges you an additonal shipping and handling charge over the shipping fee that’s built into the price.

Doesn’t really explain why he is selling multiples of them does it? Nor why he charges shipping on top of his price?

Its funny that Blob doesn’t actually disagree with the recasting statement. He just kinda says its the same thing everyone else is doing. However in the world of prop replicas, its quite different. When you actually go to your competitor, buy their product, recast it and sell copies of for your own profit. That is stealing. No ifs ands or buts about it.

When you make your own prop part, even if its based on someone else’s work.. that’s making a replica prop. That’s what just about everyone here does. If you sell copies of your own self made prop replica part.. that’s a grey area. And its slightly LESS grey, if its a part that isn’t available for purchase through an original supplier (meaning the movie it was made for was 100% custom, like the Proton Pack shell). And its even LESS grey if its just one part of a completed prop replica. An HGA for example.

When you go and buy something from a perceived competitor, recast it and resell it. That’s stealing. Be it a Proton Pack shell you purchased through a third party to avoid a road block, or a HGA you bought off of eBay. Its theft. Making your own from scratch, of a custom made, not of a “found part” and selling copies of that.. is grey. Making direct castings from a found item is a grey area. Buying a casting of a found item from another seller (aka competitor), and then making castings of that is recasting.

Blob has a history of doing this for year and years in the BTTF community. How many eBay usernames has he gone through?

I also wouldn’t say that is very nice customer service. You probably get the customer service, only after you are a customer and give him money. I guess the most important line is:

Which I am thankful for as so many people choose GBFans over Videobob. :wink:

It looks like Videobob has finally backpeddled and made his own parts which he claims are far more accurate and superior to the ones he original bought to recast. Its pretty funny to read him trash talking the parts he bought, so he could sell these parts to his follower. He claimed the welds that were on the other parts were pretty crappy, and therefore his new hot melt glue welds are pretty bad ass.

You be the judge!

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“The latest offerings from Blob’s slopshop”.

This is some sexy sh*t, I tell you what.

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Its not surprising that Nick Mason (Massacci) was the one posting early on about Videobob as if he had no connection to him at all.

It just shows that even Videobob’s supporters aren’t knowledgable about what Videobob says and does. In the above post / screenshot he is talking about a comment as if it was “BS” coming from GBFans. When in fact it was posted on Bob’s website. It asks a question of Bob which is quite clear.

Why don’t the accurate parts fit on what is supposed to be a screen used shell. It is a question posed to Videobob after he said this:

Its not his fault the shell is bad. Its the fault of the buyer for using the wrong tools, using the wrong filler.. or the fault of the buyer for being too stupid. Its all cunningly put up as a sales pitch to buy his parts.

Why buy better parts when you can buy Bob’s cardboard and hot melt glue parts? They are the only parts that will fit his claimed screen used “production” shell.

Oh look, now Massacci is “part of the community”. I’d just like to refer everyone to this conversation from about a week ago - Holiday GB Logos - #16 by Vincenzo330 - Fan Art - GBFans.com

CALLED IT!

I’m a moderator so I’m supposed to oppress my opinion and try to be political, but honestly in this case I’m going to make an exception. I would love it if you left and never came back, that’s the honest truth and I’m not interested in sugar coating it.

You are no better than VideoBob in my book. You are a thorn in the side of this community.

You have caused nothing but drama since the day you started posting here. First you threw a tantrum because no franchises wanted to let you join (gee, I wonder why).

Then you threw a tantrum when no one wanted to trade you a Ghost Trap for a Rubies Darth Vader suit.

Then you threw a tantrum when your “fan fiction” wasn’t well received.

Recently you stalked a seller here across pm here, email and even Facebook and then left him negative feedback WITHIN 5 DAYS OF A PURCHASE because you hadn’t received it yet.

You consistently start threads asking questions for which there are THOROUGH answers available by just using the search function.

And ever since VideoBob appeared on the GBFans radar you’ve flocked to him. You are so desperate to fit in somewhere that you’ll align yourself with anyone who shows you the slightest bit of attention.

A quick read through that link I just posted can see your latest tantrum, when you weren’t adorned for your “Art”.

Please, seriously, do everyone a favor and never come back. The victim card is getting old. Maybe it’s time to ask yourself “Why doesn’t anyone like me?”

Here are a few choice examples of Massacci’s “contributions” to the community.

“MocoSpace”

“Starting a Franchise”

"Starting a Franchise (Again)

“Endorsing VideoBob”

“Seller Feedback”

Sadly the thread begging for an exchange for a Ghost Trap has expired (After 90 days with no responses the “For Sale” threads do that) but I think everyone gets the picture.

I hope to God no one here lumps me in with VideoBob, Bob’s prop shop, or any of their shananigans. I bought his pack without doing the proper research, and I have since ordered a new one from a respected seller here. Vincenzo330, please let me know if I’m ever doing anything that is not in the communities best interest, or anything I can do to distance myself from those guys.

I don’t want to make this look like a pile-on. You shouldn’t have to fear discussing your purchases regardless of where they come from. Massacci has gone out of his way to make himself unwelcome here and it has very little to do with him owning a VidoeBob shell.

It’s really not my business how anyone spends their money, all I can hope is that we can educate people so that they can make informed purchases.

If seeing the facts help stop people from buying from VideoBob then that’s great, if they see it too late then that’s unfortunate. I’m truly not interested in keeping track of who buys what merchandise and from whom and I really wouldn’t give anyone a hard time about buying something just because I don’t agree with their purchase.

While I wish that you could have seen all of this before buying from Bob I certainly can’t fault you for it, no one can. I really wish all of the drama surrounding this hobby would just go away but sadly it’s something we have to deal with. We have a great community here as far as I’m concerned, we weed out the bad seeds as they become problematic.

You don’t necessarily have to be an asset here to get along well, just don’t be a detriment, that’s all we ask. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but we have black and white rules on recasting and those who blatantly break them will be promptly removed.

The best thing you can do to help out with this stuff is to spread the word and try to help sway people you know from making uninformed purchases.

Ok, now to get things back on track…

Introducing the terribly fitting motherboard:

http://www.bobspropshop.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=281

(If a mod could put the pictures in here, rather than the link Id be forever grateful! I Lack the needed skill set, lol)

That thing sits almost right inside the shell, if he claims it to be as authentic as he does, why the hell didn’t he do some research, which is readily out there, that the motherboard sits just to the outside of the damn shell…

Another piece of the saga of ill fitting shit that will burn through the masses on ebay from the recaster!