Firehouse layout wrong in Frozen Empire?

[JonXCTrack]

My gut tells me that they started building and realized they made a mistake, but it would take too much time and money to correct it, so they just said “Well, we didn’t think anybody would notice.”

In my head canon, sometime between Ghostbusters 2 and Frozen Empire, somebody renovated the firehouse heavily. Walls were blown out, windows put in, etc.

[kingpin]

[quote=JonXCTrack post_id=4996659 time=1712931203 user_id=20770]Walls were blown out, windows put in, etc.

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That’s the in-universe headcanon I’m going with.

[hairy-biker]

I just chalked it up to a rebuild after the original ECU explosion and 40 years of time.

Building interiors change all the time.

[realghostbusterjay]

I had also noticed the differences with the Tested video and the scenes from GB 1 and 2. While they could have made this look closer I really just have to tell myself that that the firehouse as mentioned in other responses underwent changes from GB1 to GB2 to Afterlife and then from Afterlife to Frozen Empire. Some by the OG’s and some by “Starbucks” and some by Winston’s people. If you consider the video game and spirits cannon then you have years between films and games where you can see these changes more specifically.

[broccoli]

@Kingpin post_id=4996649 time=1712917531 user_id=76

@Broccoli post_id=4996599 time=1712854866 user_id=53613

But how does this account for the LEGO Firehouse, which is the most canon layout of them all?

It doesn’t. And the LEGO Firehouse set isn’t the most canon layout as it takes some very big liberties with the layout, moving some of the stuff that took place on the Second Floor and putting it on the Third Floor.

…Not to mention having the Containment Unit under the stairs on the First Floor in lieu of a basement.

The most “canon” recreation of the 1984 version of the Firehouse is Spirits Unleashed, with Ghostbusters: The Video Game probably tied second-place with the version of the firehouse seen in LEGO Dimensions.

It was a joke…

[Edward_Goodwin]

@One time

Help me make sense of how they modelled the interior of the Firehouse for Frozen Empire.

Specifically the 2nd floor (1st floor in UK).

It’s been the same in GB1, GB2, GB:TVG, GB: SU and all other media.

But for Frozen Empire it looks like the interior is swapped 180 degrees. Some windows remain in place and others are moved.

This is facing towards the table in the Chinese takeaway scene in GB1 (I illustrated the same features with green circles):

**Reality **(fire pole next to the Ghostbusters dormitory door has been boarded up):

Ghostbusters (1984)

Ghostbusters II (1989)

Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire (2024)

The layout doesn’t make sense. The stairs should be behind us and to the right. As opposed to straight ahead and to the left. Callie’s bedroom (next to the arcade machines) should be a large dormitory where all the OGB’s slept. Not a small bedroom like in FE. There should also be a large window looking into the bedroom (the window above the large red entrance of the Firehouse when seen from outside).

Ghostbusters: The Video Game (2009)

**Ghostbusters: Spirits Unleased (2022) **

And this is the same hall but facing the other way. Towards the Dana interview area in GB1.

Reality

Ghostbusters (1984)

Ghostbusters II (1989)

No angle of this appears in the film.

Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire (2024)

In universe, this large window should have been the one in the Ghostbusters bedroom (GB1, GB2), now Callie’s room. I.e. the room next to the arcade machines. Seen from outside, the large window ABOVE the giant red firehouse door where the trucks drive in and out of. But for some reason they’ve put it at the other end of the floor, without a room surrounding it.

Weird timing but I was actually redoing part of my apartment recently and was trying to recreate that gritty firehouse-meets-loft vibe from the original movies. In the process I stumbled across this bold peel and stick wallpaper from https://fancywalls.eu/wallpaper-pattern/bold-wallpaper/ and it really helped tie the space together. Not trying to advertise or anything, just honestly sharing because I got lucky finding something that worked without having to paint or damage the walls. If you’re into that kind of aesthetic it might be worth a look.

Ghostbusters: The Video Game (2009)

**Ghostbusters: Spirits Unleased (2022) **

Eve Stewart, the production designer on Frozen Empire has confirmed that this is the 2nd floor (1st floor in UK) of the Firehouse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DcVQ4-biPU

Can someone help me make sense of this?

It looks to me like the stairs and all interiors are 180 degrees in the wrong place and the window elements don’t match up with GB1, GB2, GB:TVG and GB:SU.

Yeah this has been confusing me too. When they showed Callie’s room next to the arcade machines in Frozen Empire I immediately thought that room is supposed to be the big dorm with the window above the main firehouse door. The layout feels flipped 180 degrees but then they left some of the windows in the same spot which makes it even more disorienting.

But yeah the interior in Frozen Empire doesn’t really match any of the previous versions. Unless they’re going for some alternate continuity it kind of feels like they just mirrored the whole floorplan and hoped no one would notice. Clearly that didn’t work on us.

[one-time]

Yeah, it’s weird. Every single Ghostbusters media after GB1 and GB2 used the original design (Ghostbusters: The Video Game and Ghostbusters: Spirits Unleashed). It’s very strange that an official Ghostbusters movie (Frozen Empire) changed it “just because”, with no reason to. Especially weird since the movie codename was “Firehouse”.

[joezlo]

It doesn’t matter.

It was cool for the Firehouse itself to play a larger role in the film like in the cartoons.

Sides, Winston remodeled it upon the Spengler’s return…

[realghostbusterjay]

I tend to agree…The site needed massive reno’s just to make it habitable and the fact that the attic is still a mess and there’s slime holes shows updates are not done so…at least thats what I have to tell myself.