Let's play, "Ever Notice: RGB Edition"

Not considering what Alex just said, in episode 204 (Captain Steel Saves the Day) when Ray shows his hero-whatever card he signed his last name wrong.

Ever notice how this guy’s shoulder patch looks like a cross between Adam West’s chest emblem and the one from Frank Miller’s “The Dark Knight Returns”?

If you don’t mind I’m TRYING to be QUIET and that includes laughing too.

I always wondered it if was a coincidence or if someone on the staff remembered it and reused it but:

In “Citizen Ghost”, when the scene starts with Peter’s interview there’s the shot on the tape recorder. Near it is a robot figure and a purple dinosaur figure. The latter looks a lot like Lizardo from “Attack of the B-Movie Monsters” 5 years later.

“Citizen Ghost” grab

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Heck, the robot toy could even be a Transmogrifier from “Kitty-Cornered”

“Kitty-Cornered” grab

In my head canon, Ray was playing with the two action figures on Peter’s desk then Egon called out for him from the lab. Ray got excited and left them on the desk.

Ever notice how it was never explained how the Stay Puff Marshmallow Man ended up in the containment unit despite being blown up by the GBs

Yes! I remember that bugging me as a teen.

Obviously, the episode Take Two is our out for any such discontinuities between film and cartoon, since it states that the movie is based on the lives of the cartoon characters but contains Hollywood-ized differences.

But I had a more involved explanation that the pseudo-Stay-Puft in the ECU was actually the conglomeration of the four spectral GB’s from the episode Citizen Ghost.

Once they were entrapped together, leaving the old khaki flightsuits to fall to the ground empty, they no longer took the psychic imprint form of the GBs. But they had been in contact with those marshmallow-spattered suits for some time, and no doubt contained some residual traces of the Form of the Destructor.

They’re not really Gozer, since they were made of the leaked PKE of many ghosts, but Stay-Puft still became their default form.

Sure, the logic doesn’t all track clean, but it has some merit to it, and I was just a teenager when I thought of it.

Alex

Yeah, that bugged me for awhile, too, then I assumed Stay Puft’s left over P.K.E. from the explosion manifested into a ghost form sometime between after the events of the movie and “Cry Uncle” and took on its own personality separate from Gozer then they trapped it much the same way they did at the end of “Cry Uncle” and as time went on, he became less evil and more jolly without Gozer’s influence.

Awesome theory!!

Also a great Theory.

My thought was very similar to both of yours. I always figured that after they caught the Ghostly doppelgängers., now this was never shown due to the flashback ending after they decide to keep Slimer. I figured that the marshmallow residue some how crawled off the uniforms before they were destroyed. Just like the slime from Not Now Slimer. Then the slime just jest acted somewhere in the city until it became a fully formed Marshmallow Man and that is where the Events of The Real Ghostbusters Intro comes into play, where they capture Stay Puft and the horde of spirits in the opening. I can understand why people wouldn’t consider the opening Canon, because it is just an opening. That is the closest thing I have to an explanation of how stay Puft wound up in the unit. :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

I basically wrote a story out of my theory (which mrmichaelt contributed to):

http://www.ectozone.com/ff/gbstaypuft.php

Mrmichaelt, thanks for jogging my memory. I somehow also tied the Stay-Puft theory into the opening (and the test footage, which I partially bagged off a cable airing onto VHS before the RGB series came out). I don’t recall exactly, but I do remember using that image of a large SPMM being sucked into a trap when I would imagine the non-Gozer scenario.

After all, even Ray Stantz knew there was no way to trap Gozer. Watch for a very telling little detail in the movie right after Venkman says ‘this chick is toast’… Ray sets down the ghost trap, knowing it will be of no purpose in this battle.

Alex

You’re welcome, Alex! I was always curious on what was decided on Stay Puft in the RGB bible, as well. Because they used multiple traps in “Cry Uncle” but in “Sticky Business” I think it was, one trap was used but those were two uniquely different situations - the heat of battle and extraction from the Containment Unit. We saw that tiny compressed Stay Puft when he was let out in “Cry Uncle” probably due to the P.K.E. dampening effects of the ECU, so it was probably possible to trap Stay Puft in that state with one. But full tilt Stay Puft on a rampage, you need a couple and some strategy.

True, but to be fair - it was their first encounter with a god. They didn’t know what to do. They only had basic equipment. But since then, it’s been proven if you discorporate Gozer’s Destructor Form - most of its essence can be then be trapped like a ghost to prevent reformation albeit a more powerful trap is required.

I always wondered the same thing as a kid about why Stay Puft (the destructor form of Gozer) would turn-coat and HELP the RGBs in Murray the Mantis? They couldn’t trap a god, Ray even leaves the trap behind in the movie. Then as I’m reading your guys’ thread I realize something- in this continuity not only can they trap Stay Puft- they do it every single episode in the intro. If the intro is the real time they battle Stay Puft, it’s a possibility Stay Puft is not the Destructor form of Gozer in RGB but another entity.

All that being said Have you ever noticed in “Drool the Dog-Faced Goblin” at 8:36 Ray is either speaking in tongues or doing an impression of someone:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3olrnm (8:36)

I can get “Okay boss, I’ll-a-bite…hominy grits a you think-a we see.”

I was only a wee lad when I heard it, but I still don’t get the reference if he’s impersonating someone. It also doesn’t help I have no idea what hominy grits are (assuming they have to do with grits and gravy)- but then why did the entity cause them to drop from the sky first blue, then golden?

I believe it’s a Marx Brothers reference. And the blue was diamonds, I suppose. Then it changed into grits.

Ever notice the similarities between the Real Ghostbusters episode “Flip Side” and the 1988 horror-comedy cult classic Killer Klowns from Outer Space?..

One: the exaggerated, misshapen designs of the Peoplebusters are vaguely reminiscent of the Killer Klowns.

Killer Klowns:

Flip Side:

(Note Ghost-Egon’s pear shaped body.)

Two: the Peoplebusters’ blasters are quite similar to the Killer Klowns’ blasters. Especially the manner in which they are gripped.

Killer Klowns:

Flip Side:

Three: In both cases, the blasters encase their target in a type of “cocoon.” Cotton candy cocoons in Killer Klowns, and slime cocoons in “Flip Side.”

Killer Klowns: image

Flip Side:

Four: Both have tank-like vehicles (with a broadly sloping shape).

Killer Klowns:

Flip Side:

Five: Both have scenes where the characters “parade” down a major city street with the cocoons in tow.

Killer Klowns:

Flip Side:

Also, the Killer Klown blasters are very reminiscent of the Ghostbusters’ proton streams…

And the Killer Klowns’ industrial storage facility is not entirely unlike the Peoplebusters’ containment unit.

Killer Klowns:

Flip Side:

Finally, Killer Klowns from Outer Space was released on May 27, 1988, and “Flip Side” was released four months later on September 17, 1988. I’m not sure what the turn around was on Real Ghostbusters episodes, but four months seems like plenty of time for the writers and/or animators to have seen Killer Klowns and taken elements from it for “Flip Side”.

Furthermore, this would not be the last connection between Ghostbusters and Killer Klowns from Outer Space, as the Extreme Ghostbusters episode “Killjoys” is rather blatantly influenced by Killer Klowns…

One: the clown designs.

Killer Klowns:

Killjoys:

Two: the set design.

Killer Klowns:

Killjoys:

Three: the killer “Jack-in-the-Box” clowns.

Killer Klowns:

Killjoys:

I rest my case.

Anyone ever notice in Adventures in Slime and Space that Ray acts like Howard the Duck is an actual real person who can run for president? That is weird. But then again the 3 stooges appear in this episode.

On a side note, the Pepper’s Ghost animatronics for the Universal Studios Florida Ghostbusters Spooktacular attraction were sculpted by the same Chiodo Bros. responsible for Killer Klowns.

Of particular note is the jack-in-the-box clown seen at upper right of this collage.

Alex

Whoa, nice catch, that’s awesome! I had no idea the Chiodo Brothers worked on the Ghostbusters Spooktacular. It would be so cool if, as the article suggests, they directed a Ghostbusters movie, or at least designed some more ghosts for one. Their style is a perfect match for Ghostbusters.

Although I just made a post about this, I just discovered this thread. In the episode, Somethings going around. Ghost trap hung from the belt just like the movies.

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Just noticed this reference to the first movie in the episode VICTOR THE HAPPY GHOST. Winston hails a taxi cab, and Victor looks awfully similar to the zombie taxi driver as seen during the Mick Smiley “Magic” montage…

That’s a good catch. Hadn’t thought of that. By the way I always assumed in the movie that the man who was in that cab died when it crashed in the next scene. That’s pretty sad.