Ever notice how this guy’s shoulder patch looks like a cross between Adam West’s chest emblem and the one from Frank Miller’s “The Dark Knight Returns”?
I always wondered it if was a coincidence or if someone on the staff remembered it and reused it but:
In “Citizen Ghost”, when the scene starts with Peter’s interview there’s the shot on the tape recorder. Near it is a robot figure and a purple dinosaur figure. The latter looks a lot like Lizardo from “Attack of the B-Movie Monsters” 5 years later.
In my head canon, Ray was playing with the two action figures on Peter’s desk then Egon called out for him from the lab. Ray got excited and left them on the desk.
Obviously, the episode Take Two is our out for any such discontinuities between film and cartoon, since it states that the movie is based on the lives of the cartoon characters but contains Hollywood-ized differences.
But I had a more involved explanation that the pseudo-Stay-Puft in the ECU was actually the conglomeration of the four spectral GB’s from the episode Citizen Ghost.
Once they were entrapped together, leaving the old khaki flightsuits to fall to the ground empty, they no longer took the psychic imprint form of the GBs. But they had been in contact with those marshmallow-spattered suits for some time, and no doubt contained some residual traces of the Form of the Destructor.
They’re not really Gozer, since they were made of the leaked PKE of many ghosts, but Stay-Puft still became their default form.
Sure, the logic doesn’t all track clean, but it has some merit to it, and I was just a teenager when I thought of it.
Yeah, that bugged me for awhile, too, then I assumed Stay Puft’s left over P.K.E. from the explosion manifested into a ghost form sometime between after the events of the movie and “Cry Uncle” and took on its own personality separate from Gozer then they trapped it much the same way they did at the end of “Cry Uncle” and as time went on, he became less evil and more jolly without Gozer’s influence.
My thought was very similar to both of yours. I always figured that after they caught the Ghostly doppelgängers., now this was never shown due to the flashback ending after they decide to keep Slimer. I figured that the marshmallow residue some how crawled off the uniforms before they were destroyed. Just like the slime from Not Now Slimer. Then the slime just jest acted somewhere in the city until it became a fully formed Marshmallow Man and that is where the Events of The Real Ghostbusters Intro comes into play, where they capture Stay Puft and the horde of spirits in the opening. I can understand why people wouldn’t consider the opening Canon, because it is just an opening. That is the closest thing I have to an explanation of how stay Puft wound up in the unit.
Mrmichaelt, thanks for jogging my memory. I somehow also tied the Stay-Puft theory into the opening (and the test footage, which I partially bagged off a cable airing onto VHS before the RGB series came out). I don’t recall exactly, but I do remember using that image of a large SPMM being sucked into a trap when I would imagine the non-Gozer scenario.
After all, even Ray Stantz knew there was no way to trap Gozer. Watch for a very telling little detail in the movie right after Venkman says ‘this chick is toast’… Ray sets down the ghost trap, knowing it will be of no purpose in this battle.
You’re welcome, Alex! I was always curious on what was decided on Stay Puft in the RGB bible, as well. Because they used multiple traps in “Cry Uncle” but in “Sticky Business” I think it was, one trap was used but those were two uniquely different situations - the heat of battle and extraction from the Containment Unit. We saw that tiny compressed Stay Puft when he was let out in “Cry Uncle” probably due to the P.K.E. dampening effects of the ECU, so it was probably possible to trap Stay Puft in that state with one. But full tilt Stay Puft on a rampage, you need a couple and some strategy.
True, but to be fair - it was their first encounter with a god. They didn’t know what to do. They only had basic equipment. But since then, it’s been proven if you discorporate Gozer’s Destructor Form - most of its essence can be then be trapped like a ghost to prevent reformation albeit a more powerful trap is required.
I always wondered the same thing as a kid about why Stay Puft (the destructor form of Gozer) would turn-coat and HELP the RGBs in Murray the Mantis? They couldn’t trap a god, Ray even leaves the trap behind in the movie. Then as I’m reading your guys’ thread I realize something- in this continuity not only can they trap Stay Puft- they do it every single episode in the intro. If the intro is the real time they battle Stay Puft, it’s a possibility Stay Puft is not the Destructor form of Gozer in RGB but another entity.
All that being said Have you ever noticed in “Drool the Dog-Faced Goblin” at 8:36 Ray is either speaking in tongues or doing an impression of someone:
I can get “Okay boss, I’ll-a-bite…hominy grits a you think-a we see.”
I was only a wee lad when I heard it, but I still don’t get the reference if he’s impersonating someone. It also doesn’t help I have no idea what hominy grits are (assuming they have to do with grits and gravy)- but then why did the entity cause them to drop from the sky first blue, then golden?
Ever notice the similarities between the Real Ghostbusters episode “Flip Side” and the 1988 horror-comedy cult classic Killer Klowns from Outer Space?..
One: the exaggerated, misshapen designs of the Peoplebusters are vaguely reminiscent of the Killer Klowns.
Finally, Killer Klowns from Outer Space was released on May 27, 1988, and “Flip Side” was released four months later on September 17, 1988. I’m not sure what the turn around was on Real Ghostbusters episodes, but four months seems like plenty of time for the writers and/or animators to have seen Killer Klowns and taken elements from it for “Flip Side”.
Furthermore, this would not be the last connection between Ghostbusters and Killer Klowns from Outer Space, as the Extreme Ghostbusters episode “Killjoys” is rather blatantly influenced by Killer Klowns…
Anyone ever notice in Adventures in Slime and Space that Ray acts like Howard the Duck is an actual real person who can run for president? That is weird. But then again the 3 stooges appear in this episode.
On a side note, the Pepper’s Ghost animatronics for the Universal Studios Florida Ghostbusters Spooktacular attraction were sculpted by the same Chiodo Bros. responsible for Killer Klowns.
Of particular note is the jack-in-the-box clown seen at upper right of this collage.
Whoa, nice catch, that’s awesome! I had no idea the Chiodo Brothers worked on the Ghostbusters Spooktacular. It would be so cool if, as the article suggests, they directed a Ghostbusters movie, or at least designed some more ghosts for one. Their style is a perfect match for Ghostbusters.
Although I just made a post about this, I just discovered this thread. In the episode, Somethings going around. Ghost trap hung from the belt just like the movies.
Just noticed this reference to the first movie in the episode VICTOR THE HAPPY GHOST. Winston hails a taxi cab, and Victor looks awfully similar to the zombie taxi driver as seen during the Mick Smiley “Magic” montage…
That’s a good catch. Hadn’t thought of that. By the way I always assumed in the movie that the man who was in that cab died when it crashed in the next scene. That’s pretty sad.