Seeking eBay Advice As A Buyer

This should be the right forum to post this in, I suppose it fits better then the collector section.

Intro

Around my birthday I wanted to buy an inexpensive Matty Collector Ghostbusters II Egon/Ray “museum/court room” set. Some of you may have seen my thread in the Wanted forum. Coincidentally the same day when I was browsing eBay (some retail sites were way more then I wanted to spend) I saw about a 2 day sale on a set the seller had bought from Big Lots!.

Purchase

Price with shipping seemed reasonable for an item this size and the shipping time could have been longer then I liked. Any day from April 17 to the end of April. Past experience with “buy it now” or winning auctions through eBay have shown with fast payments and cleared payments items ship sooner. Even if I didn’t have to pay for this item within a reasonable amount of time, I prefer to “check out” after buying on eBay, like any site I would buy from. I completed this payment and waited. Almost immediately like past purchases I received the standard emails from eBay and Pay Pal.

Here’s where part of the problem began.

Waiting

When I bought the set it was a Friday, a week later it was going to be Easter weekend and I was still in the estimated shipping weeks. I was being understanding. After I saw the money clear from my bank before Easter and the holiday passed, their still wasn’t any communication from the seller. Not personal or automated on his part through eBay and/or Pay Pal.

I thought about contacting the seller either this past Monday or Tuesday. Based on eBay’s kinda default options I chose to wait a little longer.

Package Received

Within a day or less, (thankfully I was home at the time) my regular mailman rang my bell and I saw a box sitting on our bench. He handed me the mail, pleasantries, and I looked at the box. It threw me for a moment because most sellers either use plain brown boxes or USPS priority flat rate. I kid you not, it was a fan box. Again normally even if someone uses a box like this, it’s wrapped in brown paper. It was big enough (not comfortably, semantics) to hold the Matty Collector white mailer and was taped securely.

Opening

I cut the tape on the box where one would open this box if they had just bought a new fan. Inside the box I see the white mailer and remove it from this fan box. I knew the set wasn’t SMIB and was barely MIB. I open the white cardboard top and remove the 12" Ghostbusters II Egon/Ray set.

Item Wasn’t As Described

I was happy to have the item, (still am) but saw a crack on the top of the plastic above “Ray” I saw pictures of the set before I bought it, nevertheless their it was. I have a feeling it stressed and cracked somewhere along the travel route (from CA to Jersey) once the seller shipped it.

Contacting The Seller

Same afternoon I contacted the seller through eBay, told him how I was going to write about the cleared payment, yet no communication, etc. I also told him I received the item. In less then 24 hours he wrote me back. He apologized about not updating/providing tracking. Told me of unexpected things that had been happening. He mentioned one, for privacy I won’t publicly post it. I appreciated him responding, (nice or not as a human being) understood, and wrote him back.

As far as the damage he was a bit non shallot about it. Blamed poor service and high rates. I don’t know if it could have been avoided after these items had been passed around from Matty, carriers, Big Lots, and whomever else moved these shipments around. Could a better box have helped, probably. I know other sets I saw on eBay had damaged plastic. I had avoided those for at least that reason.

What To Do Next?

And…this is where I’m seeking advice. I knew he wasn’t accepting returns which is ok. Despite of whatever bad is going on his life, he didn’t make any mention of trying to make it right. I’m not directly blaming the seller, want to give him the benefit of the doubt, feel like I should get some kind of discount. I’m not saying I’m entitled, as a seller myself at times I’d want to do something to try to make it right.

Again, maybe the nice guy thing, should I contact eBay? I know buyers are suppose to be protected. What would they do? I’m not looking to start anything with the seller. I see other people are leaving him positive feedback, which may or may not show he’s been making money from other buyers this month.

I think we’d all agree we should be satisfied by our purchase and experience in buying something. I’m not 100%. I guess I needed to vent as much as confirm what I probably need to do. If you read all this, thanks.

Wait, the brittle plastic packaging had a crack in it? Or the figure was damaged?

When I got mine from eBay my plastic packaging was cracked too. What can you do?

Flat out ask the seller for a partial discount first. Most sellers will want to make things right to preserve their feedback rating. Be reasonable though. Don’t ask for half your money back or anything. If that fails you can file a dispute through PalPay that will get you all of your money back but be aware this is a fairly serious mark on the sellers record and should be treated as a last resort. How exactly did the seller describe the condition? If the auction is over you can post the link here so we can better judge the situation.

I’m not seeing what the issue is here. If the item was still in stock packaging how is the seller responsible for shipping damage? That’d be a post office issue.

Yes, sorry if it wasn’t clear. The top plastic “above” the Ray figure was cracked. Neither figures are damaged.

I can agree with what you’re advising. Which is why I didn’t start making creating a case against him and did get in touch with him. I know how “negative actions” can effect a seller and their eBay account. I’ve been buying and selling through eBay since 1998.

The auction is finished, as I originally posted I have the item. I didn’t see a way to access the original pictures. Guess lesson to me, would have been to have saved them, their wasn’t damage from how it was shown. And I can count on one hand the number of the times i’ve had issues with buying from sellers through eBay.

I haven’t contacted him yet about any partial refund/discount. He hasn’t also replied from last time either.

I’m not blaming the seller if the damage occurred after he shipped it. I did ask when I replied to him about it. I was trying to confirm since I don’t seem to have access to the pics he used for the auction. I told him if it was from the post office, I wasn’t sure what I should do. With his “problems” he may not care, I hope that’s not his attitude.

All: This is why i’m seeking advice from other fans and collectors who can understand what I’d feel about this. I’m not pinning this all on the seller, want to see how I should proceed before I possibly get eBay involved.

In the end if their is zero resolution I’ll still be glad to have this set. I didn’t buy it to resell and the crack can pretty much only be seen if you’re looking at it from the top of the set.

Thanks for the replies, it helps.

Slight update, I do see the auction listing with pics. Um, I just hadn’t scrolled down. :oops:

This would have been part of the pic that is the reason in the end I started this thread. The crack is above, around “Ray” on the top of the plastic. As you can see in this pic, no crack, stress, or cuts.

Can you post a link to the full auction page? It helps to know exactly how the seller described the figures, if that was intended to be a stock photo, if he had more than one set available etc.

They weren’t stock photos.I just screen capped part of one his pictures and uploaded to my Drop Box account. His pics confirm something happened most likely after he shipped the set.

Here’s the link to the auction:

You’re right there isn’t a crack there however the auction is listed as used so I would say the damage is acceptable. If it were me I would live with it . As you said it probably happened during shipping and while the packaging may have had something to do with it it’s just as likely the package was mishandled during transit which makes the blame a bit hard to place. If you feel you want some money back the most I would ask for is half the shipping costs back but you and others may disagree.

No matter what happens, I will have to live with it unless I buy a “better” one. Plus I know he doesn’t accept returns and I didn’t buy it to sell. I know their is eBay protection. I’m not even looking for a full refund. If I got a little off, form shipping that’d be fine. I haven’t decided what I’ll do next.

I appreciate the advice and conversation. Hopefully this won’t happen again when I buy the other “half” of this set from another seller at the earliest next month.

At least you got the set a good price as well. They usually hover around $120-$130 so $70 is a steal.

I have a few of these sets, and mine have also cracked on the top.

It happens. You can’t fault the seller for that.

If you want MIB, you’ll probably have to pay extra.

That’s another reason I jumped on this short auction, to get one for under $100. I know SMIB or MIB ones are on eBay and through other retail sites in different conditions sell for a lot more.

AJ: I didn’t fault the seller, even when I didn’t think I could still see his pics. I believed him that it happened after it shipped. I didn’t know the plastic would stress, crack like that. Most of my other sets came from Matty, never had a problem and take care of these items. Sorry for all us that it happens, you and others have confirmed it these plastics casings with these sets can and do crack.

All: Anyway to “repair” it? I thought about brand name clear/invisible tape. Their isn’t any hurry to attempt it.