so sad.........

United States of America Born July 4, 1776 Died March 23rd, 2010.

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um…what?

ā€œSad. So sad. It’s a sad sad situationā€

If I remember correctly, people said it died when Obama was elected as well.

He’s referring to the signing into law the recently passed Health Care Reform legislation as an end of the Republic known as the United States of America.

Thanks for clearing that up Ron

I know.

I reiterate: um… what?

It’s not even in actual effect, it’s still got a ways to go before anything is in effect and it’s already got multiple litigation against it so even if someone didn’t agree with it for some reason there’s a slim chance it will ever go into full effect as it stands anyway. So what’s the problem?

The problem is they way they got it passed and signed into law. Chicago thug tactics. When the majority of America doesnt want something why would they push it through. And since I am in a union this does not affect me at least for 5 years due to back room deals. The only good thing this bill brings is less democrats in office next year.

I was just answering your question. I’m staying out of this.

Hey Ron I just bought a sombrero at the Good will for a buck… It’s quite nice with a stitched border and head band detail… quite a steal. Yours is really funny, because it’s kinda undersized on you, so it’s neat, but mine is way better.

I plan to dress up like a Vaquero in the future.

now on topic—

NH venkman, I agree that what the bill forces us to do, and how the votes were bought/bribed, it makes me sad to be an American. The best case scenario at this point is that it’s tied up in the legal system, or the Republicans/ tea party candidates can take back a majority, and repeal it, and have enough votes to over ride Obama’s veto.

Did you see that the IRS will need 16,000 new agents to make sure everyone gets insured? If this plan is so great, why do they need an army to enforce it? Everyone should want to jump on board.

Boo Hoo.

i like the bill. its retarded i wont get any benefit from it until years from now, if it even still happens. i have a very open, everyone should get equal share view of the world.

and im a democrat.

I remember when I was so desperate for the satisfaction of being right that I would talk about my personal political views where not only was proving those convinced otherwise was impossible, but pointless because it didn’t affect the outcome of the real issue.

Good times.

Everyone’s upset because it took President Obama, to actually get it passed after almost a century. Get over it. It was bound to happen sooner or later. And I like the fact that I’ll be able to get decent health care, sure Like PC said; it’ll take awhile, but I’m glad. And anything, the next person(s) who post after me will be Nay-Sayers. And YES, I’m also a Democrat.

This has to be the most ignorant thing I’ve read on here in a long time. It’s the policy, not the president! It sounds as if you’re implying everyone who is against this is because they hate Obama, who is African American. Is this what you mean to say?

Also—

I’m unaware of how this bill makes healthcare cheaper, other than just shifting around who pays for it.

I like to think of the economy as a bucket of water. You can’t take water out of one side of the bucket without it affecting the other side. And YES, I am a member of the Whig Party!

I’m wondering if this thread should be merged with the healthcare debate thread? It’s kinda going in that direction, although, I’m running out of people to blow outta the water. Is there anyone left?

Damned if you do-damned if you don’t. You have people on either side of the fence arguing their points.. and what they want.

Having lived in a government-operated health care system, and growing up in a family of 6 who had no working ability to pay for healthcare… 2 of my sisters would be dead if it not for the NHS, I would be dead if it not be for the NHS.

Are there ALWAYS those who ā€˜work the system’.. yes. But can you place blame of those who work the system on the system? If so, there is more than just health-care being an issue - and this crosses any political line (not just the present political party in office).

Sorry, almost forgot:

The most ridiculous, uneducated and irresponsible comment that I have heard… it’s right along with ā€œFreedom died today.ā€

You’re being just as over dramatic as the person you are criticizing.

How come if someone has a diffrent opionion as another they have to call them uneducated. I may be uneducated, But your mom still likes the way I dance for her.

You believe it is a rational, thought out statement? It is irresponsible to make a statement that the country has died. It is ridiculous - a country is much more than it’s goverment. It’s uneducated - the country has been through worse, it has been through better.. the fact is that it has continued to live.

I can back up my ā€œover dramaticā€ statement with fact.

Didn’t recall bringing any of your family into this discussion. A different opinion is one thing.. a statement that the country has died is another.

If this is the most ridiculous, uneducated and irresponsible comment that you have heard, then I must assume you’re a shut in! lol Is this truly the most ridiculous, uneducated and irresponsible comment that you have heard?

Now *this *is how you do comedy :slight_smile: