Plastic Vacuum Mold....or....Fibreglass Shell. Pros/Cons

Hey all.

How was your proton pack constructed?..Pros and Cons.

**bought Plastic Vacuum Mold (1piece or 2pieces) - **

cheaper than fibreglass, lightweight, hollow, may crack or stress easier.

**bought Fibreglass shell (1piece) - **

expensive, lightweight, hollow, sturdy and robust

homemade Individual section contruction (wood, plastics, metal) -

heavier, time consuming, more input into project, harder to place Sound and Lighting system.

What do you use and why?

Ive been looking around but can seem to find a post on this topic, link it to me if I’m wrong.

I built mine from wood/acrylic/pvc etc. mostly due to being too cheap to just buy a shell, and also because of an interest in seeing if I was any good at scratchbuilding things. I think it turned out rather good, but there are definitely things I wish I had done differently, looking back on it.

Also, my pack weighs about 35 pounds including electronics, which kind of sucks.

having a Studio Creation shell and looking at build threads for fiberglass shells, the vacuformed ones are probably a lot easier to put together and require less work.. I know I’m doing things totally “wrong” compared to what people that actually know what they’re doing would do, but a drill/electric screwdriver, some small screws and some epoxy will get you about 95% of the way through the construction.

While more time consuming, our packs don’t really have any limitations.

Our packs with guns, alice frames and batteries weight less than 12 pounds, and I could easily acomodate a sound system and proper lighting. Plus the cost was possibly one of the lowest out there.

I have actually done all three.

So I’ll just go down the list.

I just recently completed a pack built from a vacuum formed shell from Austin.

I built it for a friend’s birthday. Yes, vacuum form shells are cheaper, but they also tend to be more fragile and the details are softer. Austin’s shell is nice because he pulls them without all the detail pieces on it (such as the ribs). I ended up fiberglassing the inside of the shell to sturdy it up. Even after scratch building all the detail pieces and fiberglassing the inside of the shell, it was still cheaper then buying a fiberglass shell. It also weighs less. And unless I told you, I doubt most people would be able to tell it was vacuum formed.

So . . .

Pros: Its cheaper then a fiberglass shell and can get similar results when you know what you are doing.

Cons: More fragile and takes more work getting it to look nice.

You can read more about that build here.

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This is my current GB1 fiberglass and metal pack.

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I’m building this as my new GB1 pack. Its a version 1 Zombierepellent fiberglass shell. Its definitely sturdy. If you want crisp details and very little scratch building, I’d say go with a fiberglass shell. You basically sand, drill and paint. The real props were also made from fiberglass pulls from a mold, so if you want to go “authentic”, go fiberglass.

so . . .

Pros: Sturdy, sharp details, easy to work with.

Cons: expensive and can be heavy depending on how thick it is laid.

You can read more about my build on the GB1 pack here.

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My GB2 pack is scratch built from Styrene plastic, then fiberglassed on the inside for support.

![image](http://www.gbfans.com/images/pb/mburkit/Proton Pack 2_2010_9538060939.jpg)

I built this pack back in 2009 and have been slowly upgrading it over the past year and a half. It’s my baby. It might not be completely accurate but I built the whole thing and I wouldn’t trade or sell it for anything. I built it as a “shell”, so it can be removed from the motheboard, just like a fiberglass shell. Its hollow, so it was easy to put lights/sound in it too. You just need to know that’s what you want to do before you start building and you should be fine.

It also helps that I have Dan Aykroyd and Ernie Hudson’s signatures on it too, haha.

So. . .

Pros: It’s as “accurate” as you can get it; can be lighter then a fiberglass shell if you i know what you are doing; you have 100% control and input into it. It can also be cheaper then either a fiberglass shell or a vacuum formed one.

Cons: Because it naturally has seams, even though strong, it will always be weaker then a well built fiberglass shell. It also takes a lot more time and hard work to build.

You can read more about the initial build of my gb2 pack here.

In the end, it depends on the money you want to spend, the skill you have at hand (and tools help), and what you are looking for by the end of your endeavor. I’ve tried all 3 different methods and got 3 good looking packs. So its up to you in the end.

Mine’s scratch built with a handful of resin casted parts.

It was MUCH cheaper to do it this way than if I had bought a shell, though it took a lot of hours to get it to where I’m comfortable with, and I still have a major facelift to perform before I’ll leave it alone.

It has custom lights and a custom sound system with 10 sound effects.

Weighs about 18-20 pounds.

The biggest Con I’d say is that I was limited in options to run wiring and electronics and that it’s not as accurate as a shell pack would be, but then again as Gareee says, there’s no limit to scratch building, and I can make it as accurate as I want it to be eventually.

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Gareee - Nice one Gareee. I started with full homebuilt model, for my own build satisfaction. But I’ve decided to go for one of the shell models now instead. Purely because of the reduction in weight and the size of the hollow internal space for the light/sound systems. Unfortunately here in the UK, finding parts can be tricky, especially the darn alice frames, lol

mburkit - Thanks a lot mate, glad you took the time with photos to illustrate everything clearly, it really helped. Ive been trying to decide between the vacuum mold and fibreglass one for about a month now. I might shell out the extra money for a fibreglass one as I definitely want durability as a main feature.

I’m not so sure about reduction in weight using a shell, unless you are tlaking a vac formed one. I helped someone gear off last night with an exoray shell, and I was really surprised how heavy it was. He said his pack weighs about 40 pounds!

To me it all depends on your budget and capabilities. Do you have the tools and skills to scratch build a wooden pack? Do you have $600-$700 to spend building a fiberglass shell? Is a vaccuformed shell accurate enough for you?

Personally, I went the resin/fiberglass shell route. I figured for the amount of money I would spent on tools to make a wooden pack, that I wasn’t sure I could pull off, I’d rather put that towards a shell and parts that I had a better chance of completing. It came out awesome, and I look at it everyday in amazement that I was able to actually build something so cool.

People have made AWESOME packs using all of the above options. Like I said, its all about you’re budget and skills.

Just my 2 cents.

I agree completely. I’m pretty good with my hands and making/building, but budget vs accuracy is a big factor. Im willing to pay around $300-350 for a good fibreglass shell. I was stressing too much about accuracy and placing every little part in the right place, right dimensions etc. At least the shells allow a quicker build to get off the ground with the majority of the work done.

Yeah, I think the fiberglass shell is a great way to go. It gets a little tricky trying to figure out how to mount hollow parts (Ion Arm, N-Filter, etc) onto a hollow shell, but so many people here have great step by step builds you shouldn’t have a problem figuring it out.

I scratch built one pack out of plywood and various resin parts and am now scratch building one out of foamboard.

Wooden:

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Foamboard (so far):

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Pros: Scratch building a pack, no matter what the material, is just so satisfying. Like GBStantz said:

I do the same thing, I just sit and stare at it because I built it with my own hands.

Cons: It’s a lot of work and time consuming.

Your decision will depend on cost of course, but more importantly IMO, how much time and effort you want to put into it.

Hope this helps!