Nutrona Wand Tip Mechanism....

A while back playskool2000 on the ASAP had a great mechanism for extending the tip using the green lever next to the trigger and some springs. Unfortunately the pics in the thread are gone and I’m waiting for playskool to respond to my PM to see if we can get his tutorial. In the meantime, I thought it would be good to start getting other peoples feedback on how we can accomplish this with TC gun kit. I have two of them on order and when I get them I want to incorporate that feature into it and I’m sure other would as well.

Discuss…

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Ok well since I have a set of wand plans I’ve been tinkering around with the mechanism. What I need to know before I move any further forward is how far is the tip supposed to project out?

Here you go, I saved the pictures myself in case I ever needed them.

Some of these pictures are from Playskool2000’s build and some are from PeterVenkmanJedi’s build.

![image](http://www.gbfans.com/images/pb/mburkit/extending clear tip_gunmech1.jpg)

![image](http://www.gbfans.com/images/pb/mburkit/extending clear tip_gunmech2.jpg)

![image](http://www.gbfans.com/images/pb/mburkit/extending clear tip_gunmech3.jpg)

![image](http://www.gbfans.com/images/pb/mburkit/extending clear tip_gunmech4.jpg)

![image](http://www.gbfans.com/images/pb/mburkit/extending clear tip_throwerprogress0138dq.jpg)

![image](http://www.gbfans.com/images/pb/mburkit/extending clear tip_throwerprogress0146ce.jpg)

Please don’t ask me what parts they used and what not because these are not my pictures, so I have no idea to be honest. But I hope they help you out!

So is that like a one time launch thing? Like you can’t move the lever up and down to adjust. You only get to lift the lever and the tube slides out to max and you have to use your hand to push it back in and reset it?

Yuppers. And from how the clear tips popped out in the movies, I’d say they used something very similar in GB1.

holee smokes that is cool. that little hook thing isnt too hard to make out of plexi, sintra or aluminum.

ive never actually included that green lever thing in a pack before though.

OOOOOH OK. Well in that case something should be too hard to do. Just let the nutron wand tip cool before atempting to reset the tube :wink:

Found an example of one of these or similar mechanisms on youtube. Not sure who’s pack this is.

That’s why there’s a “trigger” on the front. It’s used to retract the wand tip.

YES! I have long theorized that the trigger is there to hook your finger around so you can pull, not push, the clear barrel back in.

Cool pic.With all that stuff in there,is there still room for a light kit?Mine looks really crowded with just the light kit never mind all that extra hardware added to it.

Ah wrinkle in the brain. I was wondering what that was for. Thats a cool feature to add.

I just got a response from playskool2000, apparently the pics he had got dumped with an hard drive that crashed so it’s a good thing MB saved those. He did also share that his mechanism design has broken since then. I’m waiting to hear back where the failure was so we can improve the design. I’ve been working on a set of specs that I think will work nicely. I’m just tweaking things so they can with with TC’s kit.

Im very interested to see where you go with this, since I to have a TC kit that i’ve been wanting to modify to do this particular mechanism. Whatever you come up with please share :cool:

That mechanism would work much better if the lock arm was made at least half as long. Meaning less travel for the green lever. Oh and a torsion spring instead of a rubber band.

Ok, well it seems the major problem with playskools design is that the acrylic tube went all the way into the box. Acrylic being the fragile material it is, broke. So the design itself is good, it just needs to be in metal. I’m gonna hit the hardware store and see if there is an off the shelf solution. Getting things custom machined is not only a hastle but expensive. Of course if an off the shelf solution can’t be made, we’ll go with machined. I’m in the middle of specing something out I think will work.

Throwingchicken made these up. Just use the same spring mechanism from the previous posts.

with Barrel rotation

without Barrel Rotation

Also he said the grey tube at the back should be the same size as the clear tube.

Do you think TC will at some point incorporate this design innto his gun kit? I would definatley be willing to wait and pay a litttle extra for such those extra details!

Also the other issues is whether it will hold up when incorporating a Hyperdyne light kit. Not a lot of room in that gun box.

Anyway - This gun tip mechanism issue has plagued this site for years. Glad its finally making step in the right direction toward getting it working efficiently and consistently! Good job, fellas!.

I’m petty sure TC won’t be offering an extending tip mechanism. He posted those pictures to show how he would add that function to his specific kit, so people that have bought his kit can see how the best way to do it themselves.

I will agree that there won’t be a lot of room in the gun with this in there BUT my very first gun I built did have this mechanism in it along with a Hyperdyne labs light kit in it. And it was the older hyperdyne light kit that had bargraph still mounted onto the circuit board. It was tight but I was able to get it all in there.

Remember that you don’t need the entire circumference of the tube for the lock mechanism. Just half of the tube (even less would be better) is enough to work the idea.