Tip: rear/top lens (led cover) for the thrower...

Hey gang,

One component that has always proved rather elusive to me is finding a close enough match for the second, rearward white led cover/lens on the top of the thrower body. (The first one above the bar graph.) Well, I think I’ve found an almost perfect match:

https://www1.elfa.se/elfa3~eu_en/default.jsp?item=35-605-70

Made by EAO, the lens is clear, with a milky white insert. About 8mm wide. I took mine, sanded it with 1000 grit wet-sanding paper to make the crystal plastic outer a little less clear and now that I’ve got it mounted it’s a near perfect match to this reference photo: http://www.gbfans.com/images/equipment/reference/6/32.jpg

I’m sure y’all have other led covers that work fine, but I thought this came out so good that it might be worth a mention. (Sorry, don’t have any photos of my new thrower yet as it isn’t done…)

Link doesn’t work, post the EAO part number. Got any pics?

Also, how much are they including shipping? It might be cheaper in this case to buy an aftermarket resin reproduction.

Part number at the company ELFA: 35-605-70

A resin duplicate would probably not have the “ring” around the outer edge. (But it might def be cheaper.) These should be available stateside as well I would think…

These are the one’s you’re talking about?

Newark.com has 6 in stock for $1.65.

Yes! Those are the ones. I’ll see if I can snap a photo of my thrower tomorrow.

http://www.gbfans.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=18048

http://www.gbfans.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=18054

I have those light caps as well but they are not the one I am talking about.

Here is a snapshot of my new thrower build with the led cover installed and a ref photo from GBfans inserted to compare:

Obviously the plastic in the ref photo has yellowed with age but I think it’s fairly close.

That looks like a great alternative but kind2311 was correct in pointing you in the direction of those for sale threads. The real prop seems to have had one of those top hat light caps seated inside the gunbody for the light cap we have in question here in this thread.

You can see in some of the semi-hero packs from GB2 that they didn’t do as good a job seating the light inside the gun body as the hero packs.

GB2 semi-hero pack in Washington D.C. Planet Hollywood.

GB2 semi-hero pack in Sony Studios lobby.

Here’s the hero pack that was on display in Minnesota Planet Hollywood. In this shot, you can see both white top hat light caps on the gun body. Like I stated earlier, they did a better job seating the one inside the gun body on the hero packs.

But like I stated earlier, the light caps you found seem like a great alternative!

I already have a set of Austins light caps (you can see one in the photo). They are *great *for the two caps that sit outside the thrower.

Only thing is, they are solid cast and would not show the “ring” around the outer edge like the original hollow ones. Sure, you could drill one out but the solution I used will probably still look more like the original for that particular light.

And that’s fine. Like I said, what you found looks like a great alternative. I was just reiterating what was really use on the screen used prop, that’s all.

Actually, to the best of my knowledge, that’s not true. The lamp on the GB1 pack is a totally different lamp from the hat light. The top profile’s not even close to the same. I’ve got several of the hat lights, and it’s not even close. What it is, I’ve no clue, but, it’s not the same light. My guess is that the light fell off during the filming of the first film, and they had to replace the light on the fly for the GB2 molds, thus all the GB2 throwers have the hat light, as opposed to the first films’ light/screw cover. Note the gel coat that covers the bottom of the light on the GB2 packs. It was brushed in rather hastily, and thus coats that part of the wand.

The lens cover posted here is the closest I’ve seen. Even better than the Linrose light.

Chris

I am a little confused with what you’re saying here. Are you saying that the light isn’t a hat light, like the one by the Clippard and on the end of the gun? On the GB1 guns you can see they’re the same lights as are currently on the Hero guns, and they’re definitely hat lights. The hero gun with the moving bar graph has an orange one (same as the one on the gun tip), and the other hero guns have the milky white one…all set inside the gun rather than outside.

Um. . . first of all. Please don’t tell me I am flat out wrong and then have no info to back it up. I respect the fact that you may disagree with me and since I’ve never seen the inside of one of the hero pack’s gun, I could be wrong. But I just find it extremely insulting.

Second, I do not find it a coincidence that the 2 different variations in colors of the light cap in question is the same colors as both white and orange top hat light caps on the guns. I also happen to have a few real top hat light caps and the top of them is the right size for this “mystery” light cap.

Look at this picture:

Both the orange cap on the top of the gun and the top hat light cap on the end of the gun both have the same diameter.

And again, in this picture:

Both have the same “inner ring” to them, and are the top of both is the same diameter! That with the fact that it the top hat light caps were obviously also used on the semi-hero pack builds in gb2, I still believe it is a very educated assumption that these are all the same light caps.

Once again, I respect your right to think otherwise then me, but please do not tell me I am flat out wrong without proving otherwise.

I believe I’m quoting myself here, when I reitterate, “To the best of my knowledge, that is incorrect.” I still stand by that. Just because something has the same diameter as the hat light, doesn’t make it the hat light. If I glued a piece of 3/8" acryllic to my gun, does that make it a hat light? I’m going with no. And there are other orange lights beside the hat lights. We can’t assume that just because they used them on gun A in movie 2, that they used them on every wand throughout both films. The only wands that I’ve seen that I’ll agree used them conclusively are the GB2 wands.

The only thing I stated with certainty in my post is that the profile doesn’t look right. I still stand by that. It doesn’t look like the same light to me. The overall profile, and visible portion just looks wrong for the hat light. If I’m wrong, so be it, but I still stand by that. If it is a hat light, it’s been, at the least, completely gutted, and thus not really any different than the above light cover, and I’d propose it as a better alternative to anything available out there, even the resin light covers.

Chris

Guys, I wasn’t expecting any controversy over this thing. Just tryin’ to help my fellow Ghostbusters to get a quick’n’easy solution to something that has been bothering me since I did my first pack.

And crap… I just realized that I put the red bar graph decal upside down!!!

I don’t see how you can say it doesn’t have the same profile when all you can see is about 1/16" of the top of it poking out from the inside of the gun? Both have the same diameter top, both have relatively straight sides (within that top 1/16" that’s showing), both have the exact same guts. I am confused by the comment about it having to be gutted when the internal metal bits can be seen in the photos. We’re talking about taking the entire hat light and putting it through the hole from the inside of the gun, not just the threaded part. The slight taper on the sides of the hat light would then cause it to jam in tight with a portion of it sticking out, just as we see in the ref pics.

The “hat light” doesn’t have a taper, though. It’s straight, all the way until it hits the curve into the flange. I’m fairly sure if you were shoving the light through a hole in the wand, given how thin the walls are on the wands, you’d see a bit more of it sticking up than is visible there. As for the “metal ring”, it’s a rather yellow-tinged ring, that could just as easily be a part of the design of the lamp casing, or, presuming it is metal, could be from the housing of a different light, possibly even manufactured by the same company. I’m fairly sure that the manufacturer of the original part, who’s name escapes me at the moment, made other lights, besides the hat lights. I mean, could it be the hat light? Sure. But it could also be tens of thousands of other styles of lamps or lamp housing, especially if you’re going on the assumption that it was simply shoved through the roof of the wand. Unless you take that specific wand apart, and actually check the guts, there’s no way to know for certain, and it’s just guess work, based solely on purely circumstantial evidence, at best. It having the same diameter, as I said, doesn’t make it the same part.

As for the internal bits, all I can see in the photos are either an off-white cap, or much blackness. Not much to go on for identifying inards.

I can see where you might think it’s the same light, but I just don’t see it. But, as I said, it really doesn’t matter, anyway, since, personally, I wouldn’t want to waste the money on a casting of it, or even the light itself, to just shove it through the bottom of the thrower. And I can’t imagine anyone else would, either, accurate or otherwise. Especially since it wouldn’t even light correctly unless you got the ORIGINAL part, which would cost way too much and be way too hard to find, to relegate to such a placement.

Chris

Once again, you are entitled to your opinion. The point of this thread was to provide an alternative part for the gun and I feel what is shown would work nicely. I’m not going to continue to argue with you over what the original piece is because honestly, I know I will not be able to convince you otherwise. There is more then enough stuff talked about in this thread and others for people to form their own opinions on the matter.

christphern, stop talking about what you think you know and listen to what namebrand and mburkit have to say because they are both right.

the arcolectric light hat does indeed have a taper on it with very little straight area towards the top of the lens. when inserted from the inside, up through the top, the taper works to stop the light from going up any further and give the appearance of a single flat lens on the outside, just like namebrand said. I have a real arcolectric light cap, as does mburkit and namebrand. do you have a real one? have you inserted one into the top of a thrower body from the inside? do you know for a fact that more of the cap should show? I ask because I have done this, mburkit has done this and i can pretty much guarantee that namebrand has as well.

it looks exactly like what you see in reference shots.